Family history for Grand, Frost and Parlett.

[Sibbie]

Below is an extract of my wife's family tree. Specifically, we would like to know more of the earlier families of John Grand and his wife Elizabeth Frost. Also, what happened in life for their daughter Louisa.

As part of the puzzle is the parentage of William Parlett. He, his wife Lucy and daughter Lilian emigrated to NZ. We have been unable to discover anything as to his family line. Please see below the info we have so far. Any help would be so helpful to us.
Grand Family.

John Grand (garden labourer)        m               Elizabeth Frost .from Aldborough, Norfolk
b 1803     d 1886                                                   b 1804    d 1885

1851 Census - Barningham Winter
John Grand   Head      47
Elizabeth           Wife      46
Sarah      Daughter   22**
Louisa      Daughter   20
Frederick           Son      18
Charles      Son      16   
George        Son      14
Harriett      Daughter   12   
Esther      Daughter    9   b 19/08/1841 d 1872. M 1864 George Plumbley. 3 children,
Robert George Plumbley b 1864 d 1885, Charles James Plumbley  b 1866 d 1929 and Herbert Plumbley (dates unknown).
Elizabeth   Daughter    7
John      Son        5
Lucy      Daughter    3   Married Willian Parlett – see Parlett Family Tree.
Samuel   Grandson     1**

** Samuel (Grandson might be Sarah’s child?) 1.
      Lucy was christened 2/4/1848 Barningham Town

1861 Census - Norwich
Lucy aged 13 was living with her sister Louisa Grand aged 30 at 96 Church Lane, St. Stephens, Norwich.
      Louisa was christened 20/2/1833.

1871 Census – Chelsea, London
Lucy aged 23 was a domestic servant/nurse for Frederick Bacon Barwell b 1831 d 1922 and Fanny Barwell b 1834 d 1872 at 8 Vicarage Gardens, Kensington London W8. Frederick was a highly considered artist/painter and was from Norwich. Their son was Roland Clint Barwell b 11/10/1870 d 27/3/1961.


John Grand (garden labourer)     m               Elizabeth Frost.
b 1804                     b 1805


William  PARLETT                           m                  Lucy GRAND
         They married in the quarter of Oct-Nov-Dec 1873
 
b. c 1844       d 1885 ? NZ         b. c 18/08/1848 – Barningham Town.
                                Christened 2/4/1848 needs research!
                     d.    25/11/1910 Warrington Cemetery, Dunedin.

Lucy’s burial notice says Lucy was from Shropshire but marriage certificate to Meincke says born in Devonshire. However, the census above clearly shows that she was born at Barningham Winter in Norfolk.   

William Parlett was a farm labourer in Norfolk and became a Commercial Traveller in New Zealand.

William (30 years old), Lucy (26) and Lilian Fanny (2 months) sailed on the “Christian McAusland” to Port Chalmers, Dunedin arriving 4 October 1874. They then went to Christchurch but then moved back to Dunedin around 1881-2.

[The Yokel]

Hi Sibbie

 John Grand illegitimate son of Amy Grand  was born 3 April 1803 at Barningham

Try this link at Family Search
 https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/G915-XHK

yokel

[Sibbie]

Thank you so very much for that lead. It has certainly filled in many unknown blanks for me. Sibbie.

[mckha489]

-You have the marriage ref but not the certificate??

-You don’t say what information is on any of the NZ births to William & Lucy
There should be a lot, and they would have given it. Not a third party who got it wrong.
Are they consistent over all the births.

However… the image for the marriage is on Ancestry. If you don’t have a sub, your local library probably does.

William Parlett Lucy Grand marriage was at Shouldham Thorpe, Norfolk 18th October 1873

Both resident Shouldham Thorpe
Wiliam’s father = Samuel, labourer
Witnesses Susanna Parlett & John Claydon

Everyone signed.

1871 Shouldham Thorpe
Samuel Parlett 72 born Marham
Sarah Parlett, wife, 70, Fincham
William Parlett 29,  Shouldham Thorpe

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFNP-KJT

Samuel Parlett & Sarah Porter married at S.T. 1826
They signed with their mark. A witness is Mary Ann Parlett.

Easily seen in censuses. Quite a large family.

1861. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7NJ-R58
1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG64-XRM
1841 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M791-9FS. (A Porter on there)


Samuel & Sarah still alive in 1881

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q278-XTW6


Williams birth reg

PARLETT, WILLIAM       PORTER 
GRO Reference: 1842  M Quarter in DOWNHAM UNION  Volume 13  Page 85

You can buy GRO certs as a Jpeg instant download for £2.50


Edited after first posting.

[Sibbie]

Thank you mckha489 that fills in a lot of spaces for me. Sibbie.

[Cas (stallc)]

Not sure if you have this

Bishop transcripts marriage image online and banns

John Grand single man of  town Barningham
Record Type   Marriage by banns
Marriage Date   1 Feb 1826
Marriage Place   Hanworth, Norfolk, England
Spouse   Elizabeth Frost single woman, of this parish
Parish as it Appears   Hanworth
Witness: Richard Lambert, Ann Frost, Sarah Grand, Thos Rou?

There are a lot of records in Hanworth for the Frost family from Norfolk records.

Cas

[mckha489]

What happened to William?

[mckha489]

Louisa Grand

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFN2-425

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q278-WJVS

As a result of which - these births

GRAND, HERBERT  HENRY     - 
GRO Reference: 1863  M Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 147

And

GRAND, GEORGE       - 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 147

And this Death

SCRUTTON, LOUISA       63 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 04B  Page 100
 
Newspaper has interment listed at The Rosary Cemetery, Norwich on Dec 12th

[Sibbie]

William Parlett was in Dunedin and Christchurch operating as a Commercial Traveller up until about 1885. He then disappeared from the scene.  There is no record in the NZ BDM nor searches by Hocken a research unit of the Otago University of what happened to him. Hocken say that back in those times non reporting of deaths was not uncommon. On her re-marriage, Lucy's marriage certificate states that she was a widow,