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Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« on: Friday 16 February 24 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Is anyone able to help me figure out where my family lived at their time of marriage.
James Henry Hampson married Margaret Ellen Tansey address 3 & 6 Nelson Place church St Thomas Ardwick 7th October 1916

I am trying to figure out where Nelson Place was and if there are any old pictures of the area

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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 February 24 05:04 GMT (UK) »
On this list of Manchester Streets Nelson Place is linked to Nelson Steet, Ardwick

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t04/  Sorry for some reason links don't work 

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Added - Nelson Street shown but not  Nelson Place https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522869#zoom=6&lat=8562&lon=4957&layers=BT

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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 February 24 07:31 GMT (UK) »
It is probably on the map sheet outlined here, or the one to the south of it.  Choose the 1915-16 revision from the RH side.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/find/#zoom=14.0&lat=53.47571&lon=-2.21787&layers=101&b=1&z=1&point=53.47129,-2.21453

This district is packed with terraced houses.  Does Nelson Street/Place appear in 1911/1921 census? Check names of neighbouring streets, and description of the enumeration district at the beginning of the section in 1901.

It is possible there are photos in city slum clearance files later.

Added: Kay99 now has the street on an earlier edition.  This is south of Ardwick; Chorlton on Medlock district, near the Royal Infirmary later.

1915-16 revision:  https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522872

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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 February 24 08:02 GMT (UK) »
I agree that trying to find both Nelson Street and Nelson Place in the census is a good idea.

This might not be the case with Nelson Place, but sometimes an address which sounds like a street name can actually be a row of houses. I’ve been caught out in the past looking for a “terrace” which has turned out to be in a row of terraced houses on a street with a different name.

It may not be the case for a “Place” but I just thought to mention it in case.


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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 February 24 08:12 GMT (UK) »
In the 1939 Register nos. 1-10 Nelson Place are recorded in the sequence:

Higher Ardwick
Camplin Street
Wellington Street
NELSON PLACE
Nelson Street
Walkers Place
Jerold Street
Fairhurst Street

Here is a link to a view of the 1932 25 inch map showing that area. Nelson Place is a short cul-de-sac running south at the west end of Nelson Street...

http://tinyurl.com/3yubk6z2

...and here is a link to a side-by-side view showing where it was (it isn't labelled on the old map but it's clearly represented)

http://tinyurl.com/4vwfrehn

Those are football pitches (Manchester Powerleague) and it seems that Nelson Place was where the yard to the east of the pitches is now. That seems to be Scott Pallets so what you can see are stacks of pallets.

The last newspaper reference to Nelson Place that I can find was in 1954.
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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 February 24 08:27 GMT (UK) »
Things are no better today!
I live in a Terrace of 24 houses; Google Maps points me to a different terrace some 200 yards away!
Taxis and IOM Post have no difficulty with my address?
Address finder software on many websites (insurance for example) also have no problems.
But it doesn't appear on any maps.
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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 February 24 08:32 GMT (UK) »
So it is in Ardwick, not the other Nelson Street in Chorlton on Medlock.

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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 February 24 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Here it is, named, in an 1889 survey at 1:500.  There is a golden rule about OS maps that all the most interesting places are at the join of two sheets!

https://maps.nls.uk/view/231274452

https://maps.nls.uk/view/231274467

Those terraces within streets are usually named on this series, but only issued once, usually.


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Re: Help with location. 1916 Ardwick area
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 February 24 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Thank you everyone with the help. I was along the right lines looking for a connection with Nelson street and the possiblity of it being a row of houses but just couldn't locate.

thanks kelly
Tidbury
Cassels
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McDermott
Sweeney
Farren
Mclaughlin