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James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« on: Monday 26 February 24 16:13 GMT (UK) »
James William or William J. Gillespie was b. in Antrim, Ireland ca 1885 the son of William Gillespie (variously joiner, builder, etc.) and Naomi Woodhurst (b. Rye, Sussex, the daughter of Thomas Woodhurst and Naomi Oliver).  He was the only boy amongst 9 children and according to the information on the 1911, he should have still been alive, as his mother reported one child had died, and that was one of his sisters in 1899.
His father was born in Co. Donegal, Ireland.  Young James (1891) or William J. (1901), same age, so I figure is the same child, b. Antrim, all other children born in southern England, various locations around London, Essex, and Portsmouth. 
I have tried finding James/William with no luck.  I have not found a baptism or exact birth date for him.  I have looked at the 1911, 1921, 1939, Canadian and American censuses, immigration records, WWI records for Canada (a William of his age arrived in 1901 but no joy there either).
Any help appreciated.

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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 February 24 16:44 GMT (UK) »
James William or William J. Gillespie was b. in Antrim, Ireland ca 1885 the son of William Gillespie (variously joiner, builder, etc.) and Naomi Woodhurst....
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I have tried finding James/William with no luck.  I have not found a baptism or exact birth date for him. 

James William Morrison Gillespie born 2 October 1884 at 22 Hillman Street, Belfast. His father William a joiner, his mother Naomi Woodhurst.   #300
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1884/02672/1984570.pdf


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 February 24 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Death from Freebmd could be him

Deaths Mar 1930 

Gillespie    James W M    46    Liverpool   
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 February 24 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for much for these!  I did see a marriage for this James in England, so now I know he is the right one.


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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 February 24 17:21 GMT (UK) »
This James WM Gillespie was buried in Allerton Cemetery on 17 Jan 1930, owner of grave Catherine Gillespie . His address was in Wavertree, I think it says 5 Dovedale Row. Grave no 703 section 31.

There is a pdf section map bottom of this page

https://liverpool.gov.uk/births-marriage-deaths/deaths/cemeteries-and-crematoria-service/cemeteries-and-crematoria/allerton-cemetery/
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder & others from Czechia

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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 February 24 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Definitely him - from GRO online

GILLESPIE, JAMES  WILLIAM MORRISON     46 
GRO Reference: 1930  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 258
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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 February 24 18:22 GMT (UK) »
He married Mabel Henrietta Owens 2.7.1910 Saint James, Enfield Highway Enfield.  Marriage cert is on Ancestry

 
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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 February 24 18:25 GMT (UK) »
He married Mabel Henrietta Owens 2.7.1910 Saint James, Enfield Highway Enfield.  Marriage cert is on Ancestry


Yes, I did see that, thanks.  Wasn’t sure if it was the same one, having not seen the Morrison as part of is name, or if his first name was James or William.  Now, having seen his birth record in Belfast, I know it is him.

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Re: James or William Gillespie, b. ca 1885, Antrim but raised in England
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 February 24 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Served in WW1

James William Morrison Gillespie   1914-1920      Rank    Private
Unit    28th (County of London) Battalion (Artists Rifles)
Company    WO 329
Regiment or Corps    London Regiment
Regiment Number    762370
Medal Awarded    British War Medal and Victory Medal
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