Bonhill Census returns 1911, 1921

[Izzy]

lol disappearing Marys Im wondering if she died but under what name but I have looked and nothing

[MonicaL]

A number of news reports on the finding of James Seffen or Lyon's body in 1937. This is one from the Hull Daily Mail 18 April 1938. Tragic really. He must have fallen in and nobody saw him fall and then body not found for weeks:

[Izzy]

wow thats james Lyons , ive just been looking for Elizabeth Seffen son
Thomas Watson Hale Seffen  b1902

[MonicaL]

In England by 1939. Married to a Margaret with one child it seems.

Monica

[MonicaL]

This looks like his marriage:

Marriages 1st Qrt 1928
 
Thomas W H SEFFEN and
Margaret HANLEY
Wigton, Cumberland
10b   757

Monica

[MonicaL]

And his death:

Deaths Mar 1961   
Thomas W H SEFFEN       
Age 57   
Leeds   
2c   238   

At least 3 possible children for them, looking at www.freebmd.org.uk

Births under 100 years ago so won't name them but easy enough to find on Freebmd with mother father and mother's surnames.

Monica

[Izzy]

lol ive just noticed on james birth cert they were living either 7 or 9 INGRAM ST
I will have to wait 17 years to find out if mary is with him lol

[MonicaL]

James, Mary's brother, was still living with Elizabeth Seffen up to his death in 1938 going by the address on his death registration.

Mary is still AWOL I think!

If it wasn't for the mention of her name in the poor relief records, it is almost like she didn't ever exist...

Monica

[MonicaL]

lol ive just noticed on james birth cert they were living either 7 or 9 INGRAM ST

Ingram Street is in the Blackfriars district in Glasgow. I did check there for the 1911 census for Jeanie and Margaret but no joy. The 1911 census was on the 2 April that year. Nearly 4 months before son James was born at Ingram Street. They could have been anywhere really to be honest.

Monica