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Any football historians able to help?
« on: Sunday 10 March 24 20:07 GMT (UK) »
There is a photo that has just surfaced in our father's papers. I do not know the history behind it or why my father (a mad Celtic fan, who followed them from all round the world wherever his work took him to!) had kept it amongst his papers and documents.

One of the players, could connect to family. This is J P Tulley, bottom right of the photo.

I am trying to figure out which football team this could be. Also, hopefully get an indication of approximate years when this photo could have been taken which may help.

The older gentleman in middle of the top row was an Alexander Veitch Lothian, a Maths and Physic Professor in Glasgow in his later years. He was also a football player in his youth. Mention of him playing for Aberdeen FC in the 1880s https://aberdeen-fc.com/aberdeen-fc-player-profile/alexander-v-lothian.html#gsc.tab=0 He was 74 years old when he died in Glasgow in 1933.

The photography studios were a Wohlgemuth & Co. with studios in Renfield Street, Glasgow until at least early 1930s.

Not a surprise, but football is not my thing ::) Any help and comments would be appreciated.

Monica  :)

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Re: Any football historians able to help?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 March 24 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica. I am not a football historian but I have some information which may help or confuse you. :)

There was a Charlie Tully who played for Celtic born in Northern Ireland in 1924 and died in 1971.

Also a James Tully born in 1883 and died in 1949 who was an English footballer. Played for a variety of teams including Rochdale and Clapton Orient.

All the above comes from Wikipedia.

Wish I could read some of the other names on the bottom

Not very helpful am I and hope someone else comes along who has more knowledge of football.

Dorrie.

P.S. My family all support Hibernian going back generations. I wonder why your father supported Celtic??
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Re: Any football historians able to help?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 March 24 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Of the 2 suited gentlemen in the middle of the back row, the rightmost is A.V Lothian -a stalwart of the Aberdeen club.
See: https://www.afc.co.uk/2016/04/14/14th-april-1903/
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Re: Any football historians able to help?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 March 24 20:54 GMT (UK) »
He was a Glasgow man, Dorrie. Celtic was a big deal in the household, for him and brothers!

The bottom row of players's names reads:

E Smith
E A Gallacher
N Muir
J Kennedy (Captain)
E M'Gaughlin
J P Brownly
J P Tulley (Tulley can show often without the 'e' on records)

Top row:

N Stewart (Committee)
J Burns
J M'Shane
D Lynch
D F M'Bride (Hon. Secy.)
A V Lothian M.A., B. Sc.
T Mills
J Walker
G J Aitken M. A.
J Scobie (Treasurer)

Monica
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Re: Any football historians able to help?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 March 24 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, KGarrad  :)

Yes, did see some details on him from the club. He looks to have had a lifetime love of football and likely still involved with clubs and the game in some way in his later years.

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Re: Any football historians able to help?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 March 24 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Maybe an email to Aberdeen FC Heritage Tust?
feedback@afcheritage.org

Did Celtic FC ever play in vertical stripes?
Green and white hoops is their standard kit.
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Re: Any football historians able to help?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 March 24 21:21 GMT (UK) »
I have been looking at this site www.historicalkits.co.uk/Scottish_Football_League/Scotland_Index.htm but nothing jumping out to much.

This football squad and team could have played on a lower league that is not so well recorded  :-\

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 March 24 22:04 GMT (UK) »
Could be Celtic?
They wore vertical stripes until 1904.
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 March 24 22:12 GMT (UK) »
The neck is different I think. See www.historicalkits.co.uk/Scottish_Football_League/Celtic/Celtic.htm

From the photo, the neck trim colour seems to match the stripes colour. On the Celtic strip it looks to have been white.

Monica

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