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James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« on: Monday 01 April 24 21:35 BST (UK) »
Hello

I am not sure which board this should be on - hope this one is ok.

James Bayley is shown on the 1871 census with his family living in Macclesfield. The record estimates James' birth around 1792 in Biddulph, Staffordshire. I'm struggling to find any birth records or his parents to confirm his birth and his life pre living in Macclesfield.

Some details:
1841 Census Record - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M799-SMR
1871 Census Record - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBX8-FQPance
Looks like James also died before 1881 as Hannah is listed as a widow and living with her son Zaccheus and daughter in law Harriett.


I would appreciate help in finding Zaccheus Bayley's father James Bayley birth records and if possible James' parents. There appears to be many James Bayleys over this period so wondering if anyone has more luck than me.

Thank you

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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 April 24 22:00 BST (UK) »


There is a baptism in Biddulph on 26 Aug. 1792
for James Bailey, son of James and Mary.

Have you looked at the marriage record to see what information is given?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 April 24 22:06 BST (UK) »

Looks like James Bayley married Hannah (unknown) in 1856 in St Michael's Macclesfield, Cheshire

I don't think you have the correct marriage date in 1856. There are some possibilities.

James Bayley married Hannah Atkinson
Marriage Date   9 Sep. 1822
Marriage Place   Biddulph, Stafford, England

OR

James Bailey married Hannah Bevington
Marriage Date   16 May 1831
Marriage Place   Prestbury, Cheshire, England
   
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 April 24 22:10 BST (UK) »
Oops, yes you are correct. The marriage date was for James' son Zacheus Bayley and wife Harriet Hunt. I will update my post.

Marriage at Maccesfield 17.3.1856
Zacharius Bailey 17 carter s of James labourer
Harriet Hunt 18 Mill hand d of William wheelwright
wit Rachel hunt and John Hugo Bickerton.


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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 April 24 22:21 BST (UK) »
Zaccheus was born 1839 so James wouldnt have married Hannah in 1856

Looking on the GRO Hannah's maiden name was Bevington

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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 April 24 22:28 BST (UK) »
16.5.1831 Saltersford-cum-Kettleshulme Prestbury Cheshire James Bailey labourer of Macclesfield married Hannah Bevington of Macclesfield one of the witnesses was a Martha Bevington the other a H R Rice only he signed his name

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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 April 24 22:43 BST (UK) »
Earlier census give James year of birth c 1795 there is a baptism on 11.1.1795 at St Lawrence Biddulph of a James to a Thomas and Nancy (Anne) Bayley

James named two of his children Thomas and Anne

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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 April 24 23:14 BST (UK) »
Looking at the 1841 census Prestbury Cheshire it might be that James may have been married before

James 45 labourer
Hannah 30
James 16 brick maker
Lettice 14
Zachia 1

only Hannah and Zachia born in the county

17.8.1828 Lettice baptised St Lawrence Biddulph child of James and Mary labourer
19.6.25 James baptised St Lawrence to James and Mary occ Potseller? address given as Greenway Moor

Other (possible) children baptised to James and Hannah

21.6.29 William

I cant find any baptisms for the other children at the moment

James Bailey of Lunt Hill buried 11.4.1871 at St Peters Macclesfield age given as 79 which matches with the 1871 census

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Re: James Bayley born circa 1792 Biddulph
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 April 24 23:30 BST (UK) »
Wow good sleuthing Willow. Thanks for all your help digging into mysterious James. This will help my research hugely.

If he died at the age of 79 and this matches with the 1871 census record, am i right in thinking his birth was probably 1792 and therefore Neale's earlier comment with the baptisim record is probably the right one? There is a baptism in Biddulph on 26 Aug. 1792 for James Bailey, son of James and Mary?