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Offline Cnthree3

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no trace of two births 1920's
« on: Friday 05 April 24 12:00 BST (UK) »
Hello fellow genealogists. Can you possibly help with my brick wall.

I am trying to locate a person / family in 1921 and then two births of children thereafter.

Rowena (Betty) Acton born 1892 Chorlton. Married Charles Heywood Oct 1912, widowed then married Walter Ernest Jones 1917. two boys of marriage Edward 1917 and Ernest 1920.

Not sure when or if they got divorced but rowena then entered a relationship with Johannes Mijnardus Coenen 1894 - 1956 and they had 5 children
Maurice Joseph Coenen - 1923
Kenneth Coenen - 1926
Eric T Coenen - 1929
Betty Coenen - 1933
Alan Coenen - 1937

I am not able to find Betty in the 1921 census, nor the two jones children.

In addition I can not find Maurice nor Kenneth birth records.

JM Coenen had two previous relationships, with Mary Jane Gay Nowell, who he abandoned with two small girls, and Florence L Kerr, who he never married but had two boys Joseph and Robert. Interestingly J M Coenen put the wrong mothers name on the birth certificates of Joe and Robert, being a mix of his still legal wife and the boys actual mother - Mary Florence Kerr.

Can you help find Betty and her first two boys births  and possibly a marriage for J M Coenen and Rowena (Betty)
Many thanks for your time. Gail

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Re: no trace of two births 1920's
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 April 24 13:12 BST (UK) »
Are any of the 3 younger children still alive?  If so - their names need to be removed from your post as Rootschat has a strict no living persons policy.  My sister was b 1929 & is still alive
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Re: no trace of two births 1920's
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 April 24 13:50 BST (UK) »
1 Birth to start with I think.

HEYWOOD, MAURICE  JOSEPH COENEN    mmn COENEN 
GRO Reference: 1923  M Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 867

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Re: no trace of two births 1920's
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 April 24 13:53 BST (UK) »
2nd birth ?

ACTON, KENNETH  HEYWOOD    mmn  Heywood.      
GRO Reference: 1926  S Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 220

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 April 24 13:55 BST (UK) »
The two Jones boys are with Betty’s parents in 1921. Probably can’t give more details than that.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 April 24 14:33 BST (UK) »
Did Johannes marry again?

Marriages Jun 1945 
Browne    Emily M    Attwood    Chanctonbury    2b   1042    
Coenen    Johannes W M    Williamson    Chanctonbury    2b   1042    
Coenen    John W    Williamson    Chanctonbury    2b   1042    
Williamson    Muriel C    Coenen    Chanctonbury    2b   1042   

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Re: no trace of two births 1920's
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 April 24 23:28 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Cnthree3 on Friday 05 April 24 12:00 BST (UK)

Can you help find Betty and her first two boys births  and possibly a marriage for J M Coenen and Rowena (Betty)
Many thanks for your time. Gail

Birth of Jones boys:
Edward Jones District: Chorlton Qtr Sept 1917  8c 1023  mmn Acton
Ernest Jones District: Chorlton  Qtr Jun 1920 8c 1577   mmn Acton
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