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Parents of Mary Ann Sophia Thomas (1820-1907)
« on: Saturday 06 April 24 12:42 BST (UK) »
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Mary Anne Sophia thomas was born about 1820 to parents Samual Thomas birth abt 1780/90 and mother Elizabeth ?  trying to find Samual and Elizabeth such as marriage, births of other children. Samual is listed as a labourer on his daughters marriage cirtificate. I think parents alive at daughter marriage as does not indicate deceased and mother was possibly a witness. grateful for any help. thank you

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Re: Parents of Mary Ann Sophia Thomas (1820-1907)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 April 24 12:47 BST (UK) »


Where and when did Mary Anne Sophia thomas marry?

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Re: Parents of Mary Ann Sophia Thomas (1820-1907)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 April 24 13:02 BST (UK) »

Mary Ann Sophia Thomas - Marriage
Marriage Date   18 Oct 1840
Marriage Place   All Saints, Fulham: Church Gate, Fulham High Street, Hammersmith and Fulham,
Father    Samuel Thomas - Spouse    Thomas Cartle
One of the witnesses was an Elizabeth Thomas.  The other looks like Thomas Mackinan ?
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Re: Parents of Mary Ann Sophia Thomas (1820-1907)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 April 24 13:57 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Just adding re the marriage  18 Oct 1840 - both bride and groom lited as "A Minor" for age and both resident in Fulham. Groom:  Thomas Castle, Labourer, Father: Thomas Castle , Labourer. I think the 2nd witness was "Thomas Hackman".

There is this baptism:

Mary Ann Sophia Thomas
Baptised 25  Jun 1820, Fulham Parish, Middleses
Daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth Thomas
Father: Gardener
Abode: North End

And there is this 1841 Census that I'm looking sideways at:


// Brook Green Place, Hammersmith
Peg Gen (?) 8
Sam'l " Gen  2
Sam'l " Gen 43, Gardener
Eliz " Gen 40, "
Mary Castle 21, "
Tho's " Castle 21, "
Sam'l Thomas 17, "
Wm ", 6, " Thomas
//
All listed as b I (Ireland) I think ( except it looks like a T ) and except Wm Thomas, who is  Y (born in County) and all dittoed down as being a "Gardener"

Piece 690/Book1/Folio8 - page 11

I think there's been a bit of a muddle up, at the top. The 2 yr old is listed as a dittoed Carpenter.
I'd lay bets Samuel  age 43 is surname Thomas? Unless you have your fairly  newly wed Mary Ann Sophia and Thomas elsewhere in 1841?

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AMBLY

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Re: Parents of Mary Ann Sophia Thomas (1820-1907)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 April 24 14:17 BST (UK) »
Yup..... ;D

1851 CENSUS  King Street, Hammersmith
Head: Samuel Thomas 54, Mar, , Labourer, b Isleworth, Middlesex
Son: Samuel Thomas 27, Mar, Lab, b Hammersmith


1861 CENSUS Brook Green, Margarets Row, Nr 7
Head: Samuel Thomas 64, Labourer, b Islesworth, Mdx
Wife: Ellth Thomas 64, Charlbury, Oxfordshire
Son: Edward Thpmas 39, widower, Brickmaker, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Son: Samuel Thomas 37, Un, Labourer, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Gr-Dau: Harriet Thomas 11,b Hamsmith, Mdx
Gr-Dau: Sarah Thomas 8, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Lodger: Ann Jackson Widow, 87, b Hamsmith, Mdx

and right after them,  in the same dwelling/address, a separate family:

Head: Thos Castle 41, Labourer, b ?Northamptonshire, Parish N.K.
Mary Castle 40, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Dau: Mary Castle 12, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Son: Samuel Castle 9, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Dau: Elizabeth Castle 7, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Dau: Sophia Castle 5, b Kensington, Mdx
Dau: Ann Castle 3, b Hamsmith, Mdx
Son: Thomas Castle 6mths, Hamsmith, Mdx

Cheers
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Re: Parents of Mary Ann Sophia Thomas (1820-1907)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 April 24 14:46 BST (UK) »
In 1851, wife Elizabeth Thomas  - who is not at home with husband Samuel - appears to be doing Nursely duties, elsewhere in Hammersmith:

At: Caroline Terrace No. 1 ( not far from Brook Green)
Visitor: Elizabeth Thomas, married, 55, Monthly Nurse, b Chorlbury, Oxon.
In household of Thomas Walley 37, and his young family  - youngest is a new born under `1 month old

In 1851, son Edward is in Kensington with his wife Mary (nee Miller) whom he married  25 June 1848 Hammersmith and 3 children: Elizabeth 5,  Harriet 2, William 6mths

A lot more to find from these leads!  ;D


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AMBLY
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Re: Parents of Mary Ann Sophia Thomas (1820-1907)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 April 24 15:19 BST (UK) »
thank you Ambly thats given me a few leads to heck out many thanks