Finding what happened to William Donnelly b. 1841 Sydney Australia

[janjim]

Sue, that's great you've found that info on George's house.   Mary Donnelly married George Briscoe, our G Grandparents, so that all comes together.

jan

[sparrett]

Sue, that's great you've found that info on George's house.   Mary Donnelly married George Briscoe, our G Grandparents, so that all comes together.

jan

Sue,
In 1876, the following offspring, Joe Donnelly b. 1839, Jane b. 1843, Frances b. 1850 and Sarah b. 1861 were all living at the time of Timothy Donnelly's death.   Unusual only to have Joe's name on death notices.    Jane b. 1843 married Edwards and moved to NZ initially, Frances b. 1850 m. Crome and Sarah b. 1861 m. Tiffin.

Why is Mary not listed in 1876?
Sue

[janjim]

Mary was born in 1837 at Hog Island.   She is my husband's Great Grandmother.
I'm sorry I forgot to mention that she was also alive at the time of Timothy's death.
The Briscoe family were also well known on the Sydney Waterfront.
Jan

[sparrett]

OK

[janjim]

Sue,
I did find where Timothy had freehold land around 1853 at Balmain and now that we see he is selling in 1867, confirms that this was Timothy's home at 7 Duke Street, Balmain.   
He had marriage problems at the time, and maybe forced to sell the same.

Jan

I think this marriage is for a daughter of the family.

698/1859 BRISCOE George
DONNELLY Mary
SYDNEY

It looks to me as the surname BRISCOE is what is intended here in a death notice for Eliza in 1900.
Printed as BRISCOF

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14232625

It looks like T. (Timothy?) DONNELLY was selling the home of George. August 1867. Perhaps George had been admitted to the asylum or no longer living there.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13153817

Sue

[janjim]

Thank you everyone for your input, I am struggling though in finding any information on William Donnelly having travelled to California in the United States, as he returned home ill in 1866 and admitted to Gladesville Hospital.

Also cannot find any shipping records for his sister Jane Donnelly b. 1843 Balmain, who also moved to New Zealand and married Captain Alexander Edmund Edwards over in Wellington NZ in 1877.

Jan

[sparrett]

It is a little unusual that a single woman in her early 30's, pre 1877 would go to New Zealand unaccompanied and/or without clear purpose.
Some guaranteed income would be needed.

The travelling expense in itself, would be out of the reach of most women.

Scenarios might be-

Work of a specialised type (charity, nursing, educaton)
Marriage to someone living there as a definite and pre-arranged undertaking.
To live with and possibly assist a relative living there eg sister.
Rejection by her family for some reason

Sue

[janjim]

Sue it could have been for many reasons, there was obviously some big problems within the family, with two sons having time at the Gladesville Mental Hospital, her parents having split up, all very sad.

One of the sons went to California, United States,  still don't know what that was all about, and came home to a mental facility.

I imagine that Jane met Alexander on the Sydney waterfront somewhere and the marriage was possibly pre-arranged.   

Jan

Jan

[judb]

This is a VERY long shot and I can't see how it could be proved that this is the correct person.

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists
Arrival, Sydney 9 July, 1866
Ship Ellen Southard
The list shown are all crew, with the position held by each person next to their name and among them is:
William Donnelly, 22, OS, Nationality given as Great Britain (OS = Rank of Ordinary Seaman which implies that he had had little or no previous experience as a sailor)
Ship came from Tome which is in Chile, while newspaper reports say it left Talcahuano, Chile which is about 30k  away from Tome, having left Chile on 28 March.  The ship appears to have been carrying wheat and flour.
There are a number of mentions in Trove but all with similar information although one mention suggests that it is an American ship
From the Sydney Mail, Sat 21 Jul 1866
ELLEN SOUTHARD, American ship, 828 tons, Howe, at Walker's Wharf, agents: Wilkinson Brothers, and Co.
Wikipedia says: Ellen Southard plied international trade routes from her homeport in Bath, Maine, with visits documented in ports as far away as Sydney, Australia.
Trove has the Ellen Southard in Sydney in 1865 and she leaves Sydney at about the end of June 1865 bound for New Caledonia. I don't know where she went between bein in New Caledonia and Chile - maybe back to the US?

So perhaps this is William???

Judith