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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 12:02 BST (UK) »
I guess this the marriage for George Beale.  Taken from Penn, Buckinghamshite FHS Transcripts CD.

Marriage -  Nov 1810   by Banns
                       George X BEALE, Bachelor otp
                       Heddy X GIBBS, Spinster otp
                       Witnesses - George X Hawes,  Mary X Beale, John Darvill.


Burial   15 Dec 1857   George BEALE aged 75 of Beacon Hill.  So a birth year c1782.
Burial   25 Jan 1830   Lydia BEALE aged 40 of Beacon Hill. So a birth year c1790.

Baptisms...........

Baptism - 20 Dec 1789.   Liddy daughter of John & Mary GIBBS

Baptism  14 Jul 1811   Alexander son of George & Lydia BEAL
Baptism  17 Sep 1828   James son of George & Lydia BEALE of Penn, Labourer,

unfortunately no baptism for George Beale, or a marriage for his parents that fits.

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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 April 24 07:35 BST (UK) »
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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 25 April 24 07:56 BST (UK) »
Is this your James Beale ?
17 November 1855 Windsor and Eton Express.
On the 9th instant James Beale employed as a feeder on a thrashing machine property of Philip Rose of Penn.
Basically it is an inquest into his death, at the end of the day he got his leg caught in the machine, and it took two hours to free him, he lived but 2 hours.  Before removal of the body some wretch robbed him of his watch and money.

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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 25 April 24 10:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info bucksboy I appreciate you looking him up. Funnily enough I ordered the search from BFHS which was completed yesterday too! It lists the same information as you did. So unfortunately no direct links to a parent but interestingly it mentions a Mary Beale as a witness. Maybe a sister or a mother?

So I started looking for a mother Mary and broadened my location search a bit:
 - In 1786, Salisbury, there was a George Beale born to a Charles and Mary Beale. However,
Salisbury is quite far from Penn.
 - On 12 Jan 1785 in Bethnal Green, London, a George Beals gets baptised as the illegitimate child of Mary or Sarah Beals. With other Beale’s living in Penn at the time maybe she went to live with some family if there was no father in the picture?
 - On 27 November 1782 in Scarning, Norfolk, a George Beales gets baptised as the son of William and Mary Ann Beales. However Scarning is also quite far from Penn.

I know these links are tenuous but for now point two would make the most sense to me.

Also, does anyone know how to get an actual scan of the Marriage Banns document? It'd be nice to have the hand written document to add to the research.




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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 25 April 24 10:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks amondg that's really interesting! I haven't seen any newspaper entries for any of the family so far - is that a tool specific to findmypast?

The entry is both horrific and would line up with the info I have for James - he's last seen on the census in 1951 where he worked as a farm labourer in Penn.

Poor fella!

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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 25 April 24 12:45 BST (UK) »
The British Newspaper Archive is one source.

FindMyPast says it has the same as the British Newspaper Archive, but I've not found it to be quite true.

Your local library might have a subscription for newspapers.

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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 25 April 24 13:18 BST (UK) »
Maybe born Penn, but baptised elsewhere.  Possibly Amersham or Coleshill.

BucksFHS can do a search for him in Bucks. Costs a £1 for a 100 year search for a single person, per event. Baptism, Marriage, Burial.  Only Church registers, not Registry Office events.
Ives, Stevens, Allen, Smith, King, Wooster, Elwood from Monks and Princes Risborough, Aylesbury, Wendover, Great Missenden, Bledlow, Horsenden, Saunderton, West Wycombe, High Wycombe, Lacey Green, Longwick, Illmer,  Hughenden, Prestwood, The Kimbles, Haslemere, Bradenham, Aston Clinton and more......!!  Plus a whole host of Oxfordshire areas.
Graham, Pimlott, Burgess from Cheshire and Lancashire area.
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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 25 April 24 13:56 BST (UK) »
I did the search for baptisms and marriages for the surname BEALE between 1700 - 1800. No Beale was baptised between 1782 and 1786 except for some twins with very different first names. The only George that was baptised in that time was in 1766 in Barton Hartshorn (though his mother was a Mary!). But unless there's a transcription error with the date it's 20 years too early!

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Re: Parents of George Beale (1789-1857)
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 25 April 24 14:07 BST (UK) »
In The Buckinghamshire Posse Comitatus, 1798 (Bucks Record Society) there are these people named Beal in Penn, listed under Servants and labourers:
Dennis Beal
Thomas Beal
William Beal

pages 148-9
https://www.bucksrecsoc.org.uk/BRS-VOLUMES/brs-vol-22.pdf

Edit:
This must be the same Dennis Beal:
Removal order for Dennis and Hannah Beale and son William Beale (aged 17 months), from Penn to Wooburn, 15 Sep 1800
https://archives.buckinghamshire.gov.uk/records/PR_240/13/4/429A
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs