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Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 11:47 BST (UK) »
Josiah Edward Glasse was born in London in 1824. He became a brass finisher and later a gasfitter. In 1848 he married Janet Yuill and they emigrated to America, arriving in 1948 on the 'Yorktown'. In 1850 they were in New York City with son Josiah, aged 1. This child died the following year, and another son, Thomas Allan, was born in 1851. They then returned to London, where three daughters were born, Amy Mary in 1853, Isabella Ada in 1855 and Jessie b and d 1856. Janet Yuill or Glasse died in London in 1859. In 1861 and 1871 Josiah, Thomas, Amy and Isabella were in the census in London.

Later in 1871 Josiah married Jessie Simpson in Glasgow. In 1880 Josiah and Jessie were in Buffalo City, Erie County, New York. In 1892 and 1890 Josiah and his daughter Isabella and his sister Sarah were in Buffalo, and in 1910 Josiah was in a church charity home in Buffalo. Isabella died in 1936 or 1937 in Buffalo. (Thomas and Amy remained in England.)

I'm interested in knowing the dates and places of death of Josiah himself and of his second wife, Jessie Simpson or Glasse. 

I've had a look online, and the rules for getting a NY State death certificate appear to preclude me from applying for one (I am related to Jessie Simpson or Glasse, but not closely enough to qualify). I found some sites with Erie County/Buffalo City deaths etc, but the ones that weren't blocked by Peter Lowe's malicious web site warning service didn't list either Josiah or Jessie.

I can manage without the certificate, but would very much like to have the basic death information.

Any suggestions?


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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 11:58 BST (UK) »
Sorry not yours - Record appears to be for a young child - daughter of Mr and Mrs Jno L Simpson - aged 1 year 2 months.

US Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970

Jessie Ellen (Allen) Simpson - Death Date   10 Feb 1888
Burial Date   1888
Burial Place   Buffalo, New York,
Church   Covenant Presbyterian Church

FIND A GRAVE (record says son of ..............)

Forest Lawn Buffalo, Erie County, New York
PLOT Section 10, Lot 115, G

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/128147959/jessie-allen-simpson
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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 12:09 BST (UK) »


The Buffalo Review
Buffalo, New York 
Wed, 19 Jul 1899
Page 8

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-buffalo-review/145101053/


Wonder if this connects to your Josiah ?

Buffalo Courier Express
Buffalo, New York
Thu, 14 Jan 1943
Page 6

https://www.newspapers.com/article/buffalo-courier-express/145101022/
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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 12:11 BST (UK) »
Death of Jessie wife of Josiah E Glasse.

International Gazette
Black Rock, New York
Sat, 16 Jul 1887
Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/article/international-gazette/145101068/

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Jessie E Glasse - 9 th July 1889

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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 12:18 BST (UK) »


Josiah Edward Glasse

FIND A GRAVE

Forest Lawn Buffalo, Erie County, New York
PLOT Section DD

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146044761/josiah-edward-glasse

New York, U.S., Death Index, 1852-1956

Joziah E Glasse
Death Place   Buffalo, New York.
Certificate Number   71 - Volume   168
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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 12:23 BST (UK) »
Daughter Isabella  A Glasse - FIND A GRAVE

Elmlawn Cemetery
Tonawanda, Erie County, New York
PLOT East Ridge Lawn

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102801798/isabella-a-glasse

The Buffalo News
Buffalo, New York 
Thu, 7 Jan 1937
Page 30

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-buffalo-news/145101272/

Buffalo Courier
Buffalo, New York 
Thu, 20 Dec 1906
Page 15

https://www.newspapers.com/article/buffalo-courier/145101763/

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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 12:35 BST (UK) »
Sarah Grace Glasse sister of Josiah -  passed away 14 November 1916 Buffalo New York.

New York, U.S., Death Index, 1852-1956

Sarah G. Glasse
Death Date   14 Nov 1916 - Death Place   Buffalo, New York
Certificate Number   66614



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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 13:33 BST (UK) »
In New York state (outside of NY City), death certificates that are at least 50 years old are available to the public, so you're good if the death is 1974 or earlier.  If the death occurred in the city of Buffalo, there is information about ordering the death record here - https://www.buffalony.gov/291/Genealogy-Records-Resources  It's best to order from the city/town rather than directly from NY state, as the state's wait time is currently over 3 years for genealogical records.

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Re: Josiah Edward Glasse and Jessie Simpson or Glasse
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 April 24 13:40 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much, *Sandra*.

Yes, these are they, except for Jessie Ellen/Allan Simpson who is unrelated.

The letter is written by a descendant of Josiah's daughter Amy Mary Glasse by his first wife. Amy Mary married John Samuel Newell in London in 1875. Katherine Glasse Newell was their daughter, born 1883 in London. She was in the 1911 census in Kent, and emigrated to the USA in 1912.

The cousin must be Alice Isabelle Glasse, only child of Thomas Allan Glasse, who married Alice Agnes Worster in London in 1880. Alice Isabelle married Harry Scotchmer Gotelee in 1906. It was their son Allan Arthur Gotelee (1909-1981) who was awarded the DSC in 1943.

Where do you access the New York, US, Death Index 1852-1956?
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