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Offline K Rees

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Hunter of Greenock
« on: Thursday 11 April 24 23:58 BST (UK) »
Just doing a story of one Hunter family in Greenock, of whom a number emigrated to Australia.
I have access to Greenock Post Office directories but not 1841 census details to confirm occupations.
The known facts are:
Robert Hunter m. Isabel Ross 14 Dec 1805 Greenock Middle. We know of 13 children. Robert was a tanner. We do not know his death c1838.
Based on bapt of children, my guess is that the family moved from West Greenock to Cartsdyke in 1811 or thereafter.
If anyone is interested, then I would appreciate some lookups please:
1841 census Mansings [maybe Mansion] Lane, Greenock, the occupation of William Hunter living with his mother Isabella Hunter and sisters.
Her eldest son Archibald b. 1806 may have been a baker at 50 Carthcart Street, Greenock. Does the 1841 census give his wife as Isabella and daughter Catherine, Jane, Robert?
Gilbert Hunter born 1809. He married Agnes McKinlay in 1830 Where is he in 1843 Greenock (and occupation) before he came to Sydney in by 1851?
John Hunter b.1811 East Greenock, He started out a tanner in Cartsdyke and became a missionary in Greenock. He married Mary Gilchrist on 21 May 1841 Greenock, so 1841 census may show him still in Greenock.
Daniel Ross Hunter b. 1813. He married Sarah Hunter in 1832 Greenock. He should be a fellmonger in Ladyburn or Cartsdyke. I have his emigration details.
Robert Hunter b. 1818 was single in 1841. He may be a tanner around Cartsdyke He is not married. He left for Australia c1842.
James Hunter b.1820 will not be in Greenock. He left Greenock for Sydney c1838 but I cannot find a single immigrant's name (only married couples) on ship Duncan that left Greenock in 1838.

Any help will be much appreciated.
Keith
Rees: innkeeper/farmer/solicitor, Haverfordwest, Wales; Menzies: innkeeper, Glen Lyon, Scotland;
Tomkins: merchants, London;  Lee:  farmers, Watford Village, Northamptonshire; Pocock, teachers, Bristol; Grace: doctors, cricketers, Gloucestershire; Day: lithographers, London; Clark:  teachers, Folkstone.
Banks: farmer/curriers/shoemakers, East Ham, Bermondsey, East End

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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 April 24 00:45 BST (UK) »
I would suggest you look on FreeCen which has very good coverage of the Renfrewshire census. Free and very easy to look up.
https://www.freecen.org.uk

I'll get you started with Isabella Hunter at Mansion House Lane in 1841
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a154a47f4040b9d6e5c4c3c/isabella-hunter-1841-renfrewshire-greenock-1784-?locale=en
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 April 24 00:49 BST (UK) »
Just an afterthought. Remember that ages were rounded down in the 1841 census.
Not a bad idea to use the "soundex" to pick up any spelling variations.

All original census records can be obtained at Scotlands People. The only place you will see the original records.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 April 24 00:53 BST (UK) »
Are you aware of the journal for the "Duncan" in 1838?
https://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/_transcript/2010/d04311/a3113.pdf
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 April 24 07:38 BST (UK) »
Thank for you quick reply. I will take on board your advice.

Yes, I have been through the journal of the blacksmith Donald McKinnon and taken notes of common circumstances that would be relevant, if James Hunter was indeed on that voyage. James' name was not mentioned in the text, nor on the transcipt of the passengers, although I only viewed married couples.

Ironically, my direct ancestor was Alexander Menzies was on the ship  David Clarke that left Greenock in 1839, and I have a copy of the letter he wrote home to Glen Lyon of incidents on board.

 To further illustrate how I also appreciate others helping, I read out this letter at a David Clarke reunion and a lady stood up and commented  that I had just answered a mystery for her, how ancestor's brother died on the voyage [  a young man John McEwen died of an inflammation of the bowel].

Regards,
Keith
Rees: innkeeper/farmer/solicitor, Haverfordwest, Wales; Menzies: innkeeper, Glen Lyon, Scotland;
Tomkins: merchants, London;  Lee:  farmers, Watford Village, Northamptonshire; Pocock, teachers, Bristol; Grace: doctors, cricketers, Gloucestershire; Day: lithographers, London; Clark:  teachers, Folkstone.
Banks: farmer/curriers/shoemakers, East Ham, Bermondsey, East End

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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 April 24 09:10 BST (UK) »
Just doing a story of one Hunter family in Greenock, of whom a number emigrated to Australia.
I have access to Greenock Post Office directories but not 1841 census details to confirm occupations.
You have access to the transcriptions at https://www.freecen.org.uk/ but I personally prefer to use the original site at https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl - I think it's much easier to use and the results are better formatted.

Coverage of Renfrewshire is complete for 1841 to 1871.

I note with interest that a search for surname Hunter in Renfrewshire in 1861 produces 742 results on the original FreeCEN site, but if you run the identical search on the new FreeCEN site it asks you to refine the search to produce a maximum of 500 results.

Just out of curiosity, I searched for surname Smith in Renfrewshire in 1861, and the original FreeCEN site asked me to refine the search to find a maximum of 1500 entries.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 April 24 10:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you
I have just looked at your site suggestion as well.
I found Catherine Hunter as a 20 year old servant with a James Scott (39) and his family 1841 Greenock West.

Whether by coincidence or not, she married a James Scott in 1847.
Rees: innkeeper/farmer/solicitor, Haverfordwest, Wales; Menzies: innkeeper, Glen Lyon, Scotland;
Tomkins: merchants, London;  Lee:  farmers, Watford Village, Northamptonshire; Pocock, teachers, Bristol; Grace: doctors, cricketers, Gloucestershire; Day: lithographers, London; Clark:  teachers, Folkstone.
Banks: farmer/curriers/shoemakers, East Ham, Bermondsey, East End

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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 April 24 14:16 BST (UK) »
Ironically, my direct ancestor was Alexander Menzies was on the ship  David Clarke that left Greenock in 1839, and I have a copy of the letter he wrote home to Glen Lyon of incidents on board.

 To further illustrate how I also appreciate others helping, I read out this letter at a David Clarke reunion and a lady stood up and commented  that I had just answered a mystery for her, how ancestor's brother died on the voyage [  a young man John McEwen died of an inflammation of the bowel].

I'm afraid this has nothing to do with Hunters, but have you come across anyone called Kennedy in connection with the David Clarke? Some relatives of mine were on the 1839 voyage, and any bits of information are always welcome.

(I'm happy to take this to PMs or start another thread if it looks like turning into anything lengthy.)

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Re: Hunter of Greenock
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 April 24 14:47 BST (UK) »
I think that I should be able to help, just like others have helped me today.
I have sent a private message.
Keith
Rees: innkeeper/farmer/solicitor, Haverfordwest, Wales; Menzies: innkeeper, Glen Lyon, Scotland;
Tomkins: merchants, London;  Lee:  farmers, Watford Village, Northamptonshire; Pocock, teachers, Bristol; Grace: doctors, cricketers, Gloucestershire; Day: lithographers, London; Clark:  teachers, Folkstone.
Banks: farmer/curriers/shoemakers, East Ham, Bermondsey, East End