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Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« on: Sunday 14 April 24 21:55 BST (UK) »
I am having trouble finding the baptism, or burial, record for my 4th gt - grandfather:

Joshuah (or Joseph) Caldwell.

I have downloaded his marriage record from Scotland's People. He married Mary Boyl(e) at Dalry, Ayrshire on the 24th March 1777. The record says that he was of the Parish of Beith and Mary was of Dalry. His forename is given as Joshuah.

The last mention of him, that I have found, is on the baptism of his last child, William Caldwell, who was baptised at Kilmarnock on 14th June 1789, when his forename was given as Joseph.

Mary (his wife) died in Edinburgh in 1851 at the age of 91. Her father's name, on her death record, is David. There is a record on Findmypast, which indicates that she was born after 1757.

Mary Caldwell was living in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, at the time of the 1841 Census. There is no mention of her husband. So, I think it may be assumed that he died before 1841.

Any help in finding out a little more of Joshuah (or Joseph) Caldwell would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Gordon

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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 April 24 10:20 BST (UK) »
I assume this the correct family?

MARY BOYL   MARRIED   JOSHUAH CALDWELL   24/03/1777   DALRY

CALDWELL   JANET JOSEPH CALDWELL/ BOYLE - CHILD 1 28/06/1778   KILMARNOCK

CALDWELL   WILLIAM   JOSEPH CALDWELL/MARY BOYLE - CHILD 2    15/03/1780   KILMARNOCK

CALDWELL   JOHN   JOSEPH CALDWELL/MARY BOIL    27/07/1786   GALSTON

CALDWELL   WILLIAM   JOSEPH CALDWELL/MARY BOYL    14/06/1789   KILMARNOCK

The only William death in County 1780-1789 below but no detail.
CALDWELL   WILLIAM   -----   26/05/1784   STEWARTON

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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 April 24 10:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your reply.

Yes, that's the family.

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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 April 24 11:27 BST (UK) »
No record for Joshua/Joseph on SP, Ayrshire or Scotland that I can see. I do note  on Ancestry a number of trees, which record he was born in Beith in 1752 but no evidence of this, you could look at the Kirk Session record there.
On Ancestry there are a few births in England 1740 – 1759, mainly Cheshire, might be worth a look, he was only residing in Beith at the time of marriage.

One baptism in Ayrshire for Mary Boyle, plus the other below, could this be a transcription error?

BOYLE   MARY   DAVID BOYLE   24/02/1751   DAILLY

BOYD   MARY   DAVID BOYD/JANE BOYD    01/01/1758   IRVINE

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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 April 24 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin,

Thanks for this information.

In addition to the family details that you have found, Joshuah/Joseph and Mary Caldwell had a daughter, Jean Caldwell, baptised at Dalry in 1782. She married Mr. Robert Hill at Kilmarnock in 1803 and moved to Edinburgh. Robert Hill (1763 - 1813) was a solicitor and a "Writer to the Signet". They have a large monument in St Cuthbert's churchyard Edinburgh. They are my 3rd gt-grandparents.

I think that Joshuah/Joseph may have had some sort of connection with the legal profession.

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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 April 24 13:25 BST (UK) »
The 1786 bapt of John is on FreeREG.

Interestingly this has been transcribed as a note;
The father being in Jamaica. The mother being sponsor.

If he traveled depending on his occp he may have been born and/or died overseas?
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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 April 24 13:49 BST (UK) »
If he traveled depending on his occp he may have been born and/or died overseas?

According to John's parish baptism on FindMyPast the Father's occupation is "Mercht".

There's a "Mr David Caldwell, merchant, Beith" mentioned in a 1797 Aberdeen newspaper notice. Could he be related to Joseph?

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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 April 24 14:08 BST (UK) »
DAVID CALDWELL Father Hugh.
06/12/1754 BEITH

There are others around that time but no Joseph/Joshua

There are also other David's in Beith 1781/ 1785/ 1788

(the latter two father David could be the one in 1754)?

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Re: Joshuah (or Josephh) Caldwell
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 April 24 17:48 BST (UK) »
The 1786 bapt of John is on FreeREG.
It's on SP in and it's in Galston, not in Beith.

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