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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 April 24 23:43 BST (UK) »
I can't  find him either in the death registrations . Are you sure he died  in Swansea in 1972 ,and didn't  go back to Ireland ?
 Posting this one  below  with exact same name just in case:

 Dungarvan, Waterford ,St Mary's RC
Patrick Joseph Street
Died 2-5-1957 Aged 48 .
The transcript on their  page says 1987, but unless my eyes are playing up -  the stone definitely reads 1957. His wife's age would tally with that too as it's not often that a woman is decades older than her husband.
Wife's  name Johanna ( died  1983, age 80)

https://historicgraves.com/st-mary-s-roman-catholic/wa-smrc-642/grave


When was your Patrick Joseph  born?  Or his about birth year ,if the exact birth date not known. What was  his wife's  name? ( if  no longer with us of course) , or any  deceased family members names? Any extra  little info may help to track  his death down.
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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 20 April 24 04:34 BST (UK) »

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...as I know for sure that  Patrick Street was Irish...

There's this birth-
Patrick Joseph Street born 1907 at Dungarvan. MMN Duggan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01674/1666182.pdf

1911 census
House 10 in Newchapel Lane (Dungarvan No. 1 Urban, Waterford)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Dungarvan_No__1_Urban/Newchapel_Lane/662968/


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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 20 April 24 06:51 BST (UK) »

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...as I know for sure that  Patrick Street was Irish...

There's this birth-
Patrick Joseph Street born 1907 at Dungarvan. MMN Duggan
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01674/1666182.pdf

1911 census
House 10 in Newchapel Lane (Dungarvan No. 1 Urban, Waterford)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Dungarvan_No__1_Urban/Newchapel_Lane/662968/

That is the Patrick Joseph Street who hanged himself in Dungarvan in 1957.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1957/04395/4143381.pdf

His wife was Hanora or Hannah Brown.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1933/08982/5250956.pdf

Which is hard to reconcile with chap OP is inquiring about, unless 1972 is wildly off.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 April 24 07:09 BST (UK) »
Patrick J Street only appears in Swansea electoral rolls for 1951 thru 1953. Then in 1957, Patrick Street makes a singular appearance in the Glamorganshire electoral rolls.
Before that, in 1940s, in Pembrokeshire.

So, the last appearance for Patrick J/Patrick Street in British electoral rolls is 1957, the year Patrick Joseph Street died in Dungarven. Hmn...
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 April 24 09:58 BST (UK) »
Death of infant James Street in 1953. Same home address as Patrick in 1957.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1953/04471/4172388.pdf
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 April 24 10:16 BST (UK) »
Death of Patrick's father, James, in 1950, also at same address as given for Patrick in 1957.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04520/4189922.pdf
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #15 on: Monday 22 April 24 19:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone.

I had seen the Dungarvan Patrick Street but discounted him.

The only precise information I have is that he appears on a cert in Swansea in 1950, and that he was Irish. The address then was the same as the Electoral rolls.

I have no idea as to age.

I was going to ringthe Register office but I`ve had too much going on!!
However, I`ve sent an email to FreeBMD just in the offchance that he could have been missed.

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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #16 on: Monday 22 April 24 19:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone.

I had seen the Dungarvan Patrick Street but discounted him.

The only precise information I have is that he appears on a cert in Swansea in 1950, and that he was Irish. The address then was the same as the Electoral rolls.


A key point for you to consider is that Patrick Street seems to disappear from the electoral registers in 1957 - precisely the same year that a Patrick Street died in Dungarvan.
Why no further appearances in the electoral registers for South Wales, if he continued to live there into the early 1970s?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: GRO Missing Years Death
« Reply #17 on: Monday 22 April 24 19:51 BST (UK) »
It`s very puzzling.

However, I`ve already received a reply from FreeBMD, also stumped!!

I think I had Patrick in a hostel in Margam, along with a John Street, not sure but that "could" have been in second half 1950s.although  I`ve managed to mislay the information.

Thanks