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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 April 24 08:50 BST (UK) »
Mr Charles looks to be William John CHARLES, a butcher.

171 Glenferrie Rd, Hawthorn, Yarra in 1942

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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 April 24 08:58 BST (UK) »
Mr Charles looks to be William John CHARLES, a butcher.

171 Glenferrie Rd, Hawthorn, Yarra in 1942

And I think I see Kenneth in the same area in 1949 as the couple.
Kenneth Richard CHARLES, a butcher at 4 Inverleith Street Hawthorn .

Does this sound likely?

Sue
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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 April 24 09:21 BST (UK) »
I don't understand why there is no WW1 Record.
There isn't one for this BOURBAND either (War Office Casualty List. -- this clip from Australian Infantry.  14th May 1918


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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 April 24 09:24 BST (UK) »
found that one  = he is Rex Norman BOURBAUD at archives

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3100654&isAv=N

And here is Horace !  also BOURBAUD

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3100652

it contains the Army's transcript of the marriage certificate
and so this is his birth registration (Victoria)

BOURBAUD
Horace
Birth
mother Jeannie DREW
father  Adrien George
district MALVERN
1890
14746/1890


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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 April 24 09:43 BST (UK) »
Mr Charles looks to be William John CHARLES, a butcher.

171 Glenferrie Rd, Hawthorn, Yarra in 1942

And I think I see Kenneth in the same area in 1949 as the couple.
Kenneth Richard CHARLES, a butcher at 4 Inverleith Street Hawthorn .

Does this sound likely?

Sue

I would say that is correct Sue.
here is the birth

BOURBAUD
Kenneth Richd
mother  Ada Emeline UNDERHILL
father  Horace
RYUP
1923
7570/1923

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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #14 on: Friday 19 April 24 09:44 BST (UK) »
there are some very, very useful Family Notices in Trove for BOURBAUD


modified to add a Very  ;D

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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 April 24 09:55 BST (UK) »
There was another child

BOURBAUD
Adrian Horace
Mother - Ada Emeline UNDERHOLL
Father -  Horace
ELSTERNWICK
1921
3183/1921

and in 1949 he is at the Glenferrie Road address too. 

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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #16 on: Friday 19 April 24 10:52 BST (UK) »
Wow, what a fantastic group of people.  Thankyou all so much, so much information to absorb and followup on. This will keep me happy for a long time. 
Still got lots to do sorting out between Ada Em(m)aline and Ada Emily, bearing in mind the "Underhill" surname.
Very much appreciated. Cheers, Dianne
Esse, Cooper, Mahony/Mahoney, Krause, Klemke, Schreiber, Duff,  - UK/Australia/Europe/

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Re: HORACE BOURBARD AND WIFE ADA
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 20 April 24 03:44 BST (UK) »

 Kenneth's parents divorced in 1937 and his mother Ada remarried 

It was Ada who sued for divorce on the grounds of desertion.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11080457

Ada's second husband William John CHARLES was born-
CHARLES William John
M. Agnes PETRIE
F. Iden
FITZROY NORTH
 18451/1899

From at least 1931 to 1936 William John was living with his parents, Agnes and Iden Goble G CHARLES at 75 Murphy Street Elsternwick.
 

Kenneth Richard BOURBAUD's brother Adrian Horace enlisted in the forces of WW2.
You can see his digitised record at the National Archives link given previously.  Use the surname BOURBAUD, not CHARLES.

He enlisted 1942 and was born in Elsternwick . A fitter and single.  The file contains a photo of him.
The interesting thing is he states as NOK, his father Horace, living at 352 North Rd, Auburn.

Kenneth Richard also enlisted in 1941 using the surname BOURBAUD. A butcher. Single.
His  NOK is his mother Ada. 
There is a letter in the file dated 1986 about claiming some medals which states-

"Since my discharge I have changed my name by Deed Poll"

Now Charles.

This means he was known by and went under the name of BOURBAUD until his 20's being discharged in 1945.

Unusual. One wonders at the late change.

Sue


Adrian Horace never changed his name apparently.
He remains as BOURBAUD on the Victorian Elecoral Roll until 1980 with others of the surname at the addresses.


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