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Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« on: Friday 19 April 24 11:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Maria Clough was my husband's 2xgreat grandmother born in Manchester.

In 1840 she married Richard Lomas, both full age, both living at Alport, Manchester.  Her father's name was Elisha Clough, a carter.

In the '41 Richard's age is given as 25 and Maria's 20.  They have Elizabeth a 9 month old daughter.  In the '51 she gives her age as 32, born in Manchester.  She now has a son, John as well as Elizabeth (although John's age is 6 and Elizabeth is 2 - maybe the first Elizabeth died?).  In the '61 her age is 42 and says born in Manchester so her age is consistent.

Who is Elisha, her father?  I can't find him and I can't find her mother.  Can anyone help?

I've got the marriage but can't attach as the file is too large.

Thanks.

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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 April 24 12:03 BST (UK) »
Hello
This does look tricky
I've checked the maiden name for the children and it looks like Richard Lomas has two wives called Maria.
His second marriage is in Dec qtr 1849 to a Maria Hindle at Sculcoates.
So the 1851 census does not count.
Children
Elizabeth 1840 Manchester
Hannah Sep 1842 Manchester mdn Clough
John Hindle Mar qtr 1845 Sculcoates  mdn Hindle
Elizabeth Ann Mar 1849 same
Richard Dec 1852 same
Maria June 1855 same
Isaac Sep 1857
Martha June  1863 Ashton under Lyme

Like you I'm struggling to find an Elisha Clough carter.
There is an Elisha Clough over at Harewood farmer born 1795 who married Jane Smith 10.8.1819 at Leeds.No sign of a daughter Maria though.

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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 April 24 12:23 BST (UK) »
Death of Maria Lomas in 1843 aged 22
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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 April 24 12:29 BST (UK) »
Yes it is odd.

I've only found one Elisha Clough who was baptised 1795 in Leeds, then married Jane Smith in 1819 in Leeds.  He died in 1865 in Chapel Allerton, Yorkshire.

There appears to be a number of children born to the above:

William Benjamin, 14.5.1820
John, 11.12.1821
George, 13.9.1825
Sarah, 10.9.1827
Jane, 19.1.1832 all Harewood.

Then a few more random births ...

I've got to go out but will pick up again in a couple of hours.

Will checkout the death too.

Thanks both.


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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 April 24 14:08 BST (UK) »
So back to basics ...

'41 she was in Deansgate
'51 she was in Kingston upon Hull and it states "formerly Maria ..."  Can anyone help with the transcription?
'61 Manchester registration Ashton
'71 in Staley, born Manchester
'81 in Staley/Dukinfield, born Manchester and now a widow.

There's a death of a Maria Lomas in 1886 Q4 in Ashton (shows birth date as 1819).

I'm at a loss ...

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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 April 24 14:14 BST (UK) »
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'51 she was in Kingston upon Hull and it states "formerly Maria ..."  Can anyone help with the transcription?

But that's the second wife isn't it? Maria Hindle?

"formerly Power L Weaver"  (power loom weaver)
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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 April 24 14:31 BST (UK) »
Aaahhhh ...

To correct myself Richard and Maria are 3xgreat grandparents.
His 2xgreat grandfather was Isaac Lomas born 1857

so assuming our Maria Clough died in 1843 then Maria Hindle is who I should be looking for.

 :) Thank you both :)

I don't have to worry about Elisha.

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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 April 24 14:38 BST (UK) »
LOMAS, ISAAC       mmn HINDLE 
GRO Reference: 1857  S Quarter in SCULCOATES  Volume 09D  Page 105
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Re: Maria Clough, b1819 Manchester
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 April 24 15:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie99.

Rosie99, I can't find where mmn is shown.  I use Ancestry and occasionally Genes Reunited.  How do I find the above info?

I have found it, thanks again.