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Double Marriage?
« on: Friday 19 April 24 22:12 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help, I have a marriage record in Liverpool that has some latin writing in the margin I can't understand.

I have two records of marriage in Everton
1. Civil reg from Lancashire bmd 3rd quarter 1923 St Benedict C of E John Duffy to Maud Oscroft
2. Parish Register marriages at All Souls RC in November 1925 Joannis Duffy to Matilda Oscroft.

I know Matilda is a variant of the name Maud and Joannis is John
Are they the same people? Is it allowed to marry twice?  I hope for a clue in the latin scrawl in the margin.


I should add that HE was RC don't know about her
ARNOLD, PARTINGTON, FOSTER in StHelens
BEBBINGTON, FINDLOW in Northwich
BURROWS,Billinge,Northwich
DUMBILL/DUMBELL, Gt Sankey, St Helens
EDMUNDSON in Northumberland, Warrington, St Helens, Manchester
HENDERSON, Northumberland,St Helens
LIPTROTT, Billinge
BURROWS, Billinge, Northwich

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Re: Double Marriage?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 April 24 22:29 BST (UK) »
Contracted marriage in a non-Catholic church, July 29th, 1923.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Double Marriage?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 April 24 22:44 BST (UK) »
So they were married before in a non catholic church, that solves it then. I've just been reading that this is allowed when they have different faiths, well I never knew that. Thank you much  :)
ARNOLD, PARTINGTON, FOSTER in StHelens
BEBBINGTON, FINDLOW in Northwich
BURROWS,Billinge,Northwich
DUMBILL/DUMBELL, Gt Sankey, St Helens
EDMUNDSON in Northumberland, Warrington, St Helens, Manchester
HENDERSON, Northumberland,St Helens
LIPTROTT, Billinge
BURROWS, Billinge, Northwich

BOAST, Suffolk,Widnes,St Helens :-
http://rattyclan.tribalpages.com/

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Re: Double Marriage?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 April 24 16:34 BST (UK) »
So they were married before in a non catholic church, that solves it then. I've just been reading that this is allowed when they have different faiths, well I never knew that. Thank you much  :)

Bear in mind that the two ceremonies were not equivalent.

The first one, in 1923, would have been a full legal marriage under English law.

However, Roman Catholics might have considered that it wasn't valid under their church law, so another ceremony was required. The 1925 ceremony might have been like a marriage, but as far as the law of the land is concerned, it would have had no effect (hence no second registration).
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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