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Dear all

I am hoping that someone may be able to help me identify Alexander KENNEDY and Fanny CARTER who married in Port Elizabeth on 27 October 1858 (as per the first attachment).

They had five children.  Robert baptised in Port Elizabeth (see https://www.albany1820.com/transcriptions/Data/PortElizabeth/baptisms/methodist1.htm):

Entry #485
Child: Robert KENNEDY?
Parents: Alexander and Fanny
Born: 25 Aug 1860
Baptised: 9 Sep 1860

and four baptised in Uitenhage (as per the second attachment).

Fanny CARTER's Form of Information of a Death shows only that she was to be buried in Uitenhage, she was born in England and that she was 83 when she died (as per the third attachnment).

There do not appear to be gravestones for either Fanny KENNEDY (nee CARTER) or Alexander KENNEDY in the Uitenhage cemetery (see for example, http://africangenealogy.blogspot.com/2013/11/begraafplaas-uitenhage-anglican-graves.html) but there are gravestones for some of their children and grandchildren.

Alexander KENNEDY may have been born in Scotland in 1835:

Alexander Kennedy (birth):

First name(s) Alexander
Last name Kennady
Birth year 1835
Birth date 25 Apr 1835
Baptism year 1835
Baptism date 15 May 1835
Residence New North
Place Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Kennady
Father's occupation Spirit Dealer
Mother's first name(s) Janet
Mother's last name McLeish
Archive reference OPR 685_1/57
Register year range 1834-1839
Item 3
Page 30
Record set Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

There is also an Alexander KENNEDY born in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1835 who was in the British merchant navy (as per the fourth attachment) - given that the marriage record refers to Alexander KENNEDY as a seaman.

Having hit a brickwall at trying to find their parents, I would be most grateful if Alexander KENNEDY and Fanny CARTER are able to be identified.  If anyone has a copy of the baptismal record for their first child, Robert KENNEDY that would be very much appreciated too.

Many thanks
Richard Gomm

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Re: Help to find Alexander KENNEDY and Fanny CARTER - married in Port Elizabeth
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 14:24 BST (UK) »
A long shot could it be he went insolvent?
Document 10 of 16
DEPOT     KAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MOIB                                                                 
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 2/1531                                                               
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 170                                                                   
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          KENNEDY, ALEXANDER. INSOLVENT LIQUIDATION AND DISTRIBUTION ACCOUNT.   
STARTING  18780000                                                             
ENDING    18800000                                                             
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: Help to find Alexander KENNEDY and Fanny CARTER - married in Port Elizabeth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 14:30 BST (UK) »
Maybe he died in the Transvaal.
Document 7 of 10
DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MHG                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 13248                                                                 
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          KENNEDY, ALEXANDER.                                                   
STARTING  19080000                                                             
ENDING    19080000                                                             
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: Help to find Alexander KENNEDY and Fanny CARTER - married in Port Elizabeth
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 07:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you pampoen.

The Transvaal record appears to correspond to the attached image in FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS36-79ZH-L?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQPHG-LBCK&action=view).

If that is correct, the record relates to an Alexander KENNEDY who was born in c. 1868 and who was unmarried.  I shall keep an open mind but it does not seem to quite fit.

The second record seems more promising (due to the link to the Cape) but I cannot see how to access it online and I am in Australia, so I am unable to examine the record in person.

Thank you very much for your suggestions.

Much appreciated
Richard Gomm


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Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Hi Pampoen

Thank you for continuing to look at this.

I believe this to be Robert KENNEDY's marriage record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1VQ-HH2?view=index&action=view

The difficulty is tracing back to Alexander KENNEDY and Fanny CARTER.

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Alexander born 1835 is with parents 1841/1851

1841

Robert Kennedy 40
Janet 35
Euphemia 8
Alexr 6
Janet 2
Betsey Mcleish 25
John Mcleish 59

1851

Robert 51
Janet 42
Euphemia 18
Alexander 15 born 25 April 1835 per baptism transcription
Janet 12
James 7

Sorry if you already have this, I wasn't quite clear which parents you were trying to follow.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Fanny CARTER's Form of Information of a Death shows only that she was to be buried in Uitenhage, she was born in England and that she was 83 when she died (as per the third attachnment).

What year was that please? 
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos