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Re: Philipson / Wailes Auckland area
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 21 April 24 21:32 BST (UK) »
Please could you tell us what documents you have to confirm that the George Phil(l)ipson who married Hannah Wailes was born in 1892, in Winlaton/Spen?
Maybe their marriage cert which would show his age, occupation and father's  name and occupation?

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Re: Philipson / Wailes Auckland area
« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 April 24 11:22 BST (UK) »
These are the transcripts of the census returns for the George Philipson born 1892 WInlaton/Spen that you asked about
1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCS-Q1H
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWHD-N5D
his occupation in 1911 was insurance clerk
there is a 'possible' marriage in Q2 1917, Stockton for him to Marie Lockwood
and if you check the 1921 census there is an entry that matches this man, for age, area he lived in, wife's name and his occupation

at that stage, my curiosity got the better of me and I got the birth record for the daughter Hannah born 1918

born 7 May 1918, Foundry Fields, Crook
Hannah, girl
father George Philipson, occ: Lead Miner (Foreman)
Informant George Philipson, father, Garden Terrace, Allenhead, Allendale, Northumberland
registered 25 May 1918

These census returns seem to be a better match for the husband of Hannah Wailes
1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS98-9BT
1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMP-RXS

and this one was born c1888 in Allendale
deaths Q4 1918 Hexham George Philipson, age 31
so that is possible to match with Hannah being a widow in 1921
In order to be sure you would need the marriage cert for Hannah Wailes and George Philipson to see what his age was and his occupation  and his father's details.

Boo


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Re: Philipson / Wailes Auckland area
« Reply #11 on: Monday 22 April 24 17:51 BST (UK) »
These are the transcripts of the census returns for the George Philipson born 1892 WInlaton/Spen that you asked about
1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCS-Q1H
1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWHD-N5D
his occupation in 1911 was insurance clerk
there is a 'possible' marriage in Q2 1917, Stockton for him to Marie Lockwood
and if you check the 1921 census there is an entry that matches this man, for age, area he lived in, wife's name and his occupation

at that stage, my curiosity got the better of me and I got the birth record for the daughter Hannah born 1918

born 7 May 1918, Foundry Fields, Crook
Hannah, girl
father George Philipson, occ: Lead Miner (Foreman)
Informant George Philipson, father, Garden Terrace, Allenhead, Allendale, Northumberland
registered 25 May 1918

These census returns seem to be a better match for the husband of Hannah Wailes
1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS98-9BT
1911 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMP-RXS

and this one was born c1888 in Allendale
deaths Q4 1918 Hexham George Philipson, age 31
so that is possible to match with Hannah being a widow in 1921
In order to be sure you would need the marriage cert for Hannah Wailes and George Philipson to see what his age was and his occupation  and his father's details.

Boo
Oh amazing Boo. I was beginning to think I had the wrong George. I had the 1901 and 11 census for the George from Spen , but no info re the marriage of Hannah and the George other than the quarter and year.
As you say,that's far more likely
Elliot(t), Stobbs,Thompson (Weardale) Johnson, Hunter, Hall (Kirk Merrington/Spennymoor)

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Re: Philipson / Wailes Auckland area
« Reply #12 on: Monday 22 April 24 18:07 BST (UK) »
Its likely but without having details from their marriage its still not definite.
You could try emailing the Durham Registrars and asking if they would check the record and confirm/ deny that the groom was a lead miner and his father was called William.
Some registrars will reply, some just tell you how to buy the cert to find out, but Shy Bairns get Nowt so its worth asking.
NB if they do reply, they will only tell you if its a match or not, they wont tell you any new info.

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Re: Philipson / Wailes Auckland area
« Reply #13 on: Monday 22 April 24 21:09 BST (UK) »
Its likely but without having details from their marriage its still not definite.
You could try emailing the Durham Registrars and asking if they would check the record and confirm/ deny that the groom was a lead miner and his father was called William.
Some registrars will reply, some just tell you how to buy the cert to find out, but Shy Bairns get Nowt so its worth asking.
NB if they do reply, they will only tell you if its a match or not, they wont tell you any new info.

Boo
Ha ha . Thanks again 👍
Elliot(t), Stobbs,Thompson (Weardale) Johnson, Hunter, Hall (Kirk Merrington/Spennymoor)