Marriage 1941

[Gan Yam]

Morning Gan Yam

It is a complete mystery.

We know that Teresa Budlin married Harry Hibbert in ‘34.  Possibly this Janet T Hibbert was a result of that marriage (b 1935)

Then we have a Maureen J (b 1938), Jill (b ‘40), Keith R (b ‘41), and Roy BH (b ‘43).  All mothers are Woollas.

But on Roy’s BC, Teresa Hibbert’s maiden name is down as ‘formerly Woollas’ - not Budlin!  Am I missing something so obvious….

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I think that the Dec 1936 birth MMN is recorded as Wallas but this is could well be a mis transcription and this is a possible child on the 1939 register.

I suppose unless you have all the certificates, there is no way of knowing if they say formerly Woollas, or whether Teresa and Harry are the parents, but as it appears to be an unusual combination of surnames, so quite likely.

Maybe Teresa was married before, or was born with one name and adopted another name as a child because of family relationships and swapped between the two. 

(My OH's grandparents had 4 children and two were registered with grandmothers maiden name and two were registered with her previous married name as maiden name, so things are not always recorded correctly and the information is only as good as the informer.)

There doesn't seem to be an easily identifiably birth for Teresa under either name!

[olives]

Think I’ll have to get their MC.

The other bizarre thing is:  on the 1945/46 Poll Register it showed Harry & Teresa Hibbert living at 214 Heneage Road, Grimsby. 

In the 1946 one there is no mention of them two, but an Edith Nundy living there (who later became the common law wife of Harry!  In fact she gave birth to his son later that same year - December’46!

From 1949 Harry & Edith were living at 49 Pershore Avenue, Grimsby (until he died in 1960) but there is no more info anywhere for this Teresa ever since the poll register 45/46.  So what happened to her we don’t know.  Certainly we can find no death record.

Oh what tangled webs they wove….

[jonw65]

Burial of son in 1942. Teresa recorded as Louisa here (possibly her name was misheard, or mistranscribed?)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5ef9fe09f493fd0c012c92b9

[Gan Yam]

It looks like Jill the child born in 1940 died in 1947.

[olives]

At last I’ve managed to get hold of the MC

So that makes Teresa b 1911 & yet I can’t find any birth record for her, nor anything about her father.

The key query here is:  why did Teresa call all her children Hibbert and yet on birth records put her name down as Teresa (formerly Woollas) and not Budlin (which was her official maiden name).

According to the 1939 register and the 1945/46 Poll register she was listed as Teresa Hibbert.

If only I could find out Teresa’s mother’s maiden name.  Am I missing something?

[Gan Yam]

At last I’ve managed to get hold of the MC

So that makes Teresa b 1911 & yet I can’t find any birth record for her, nor anything about her father.

The key query here is:  why did Teresa call all her children Hibbert and yet on birth records put her name down as Teresa (formerly Woollas) and not Budlin (which was her official maiden name).

According to the 1939 register and the 1945/46 Poll register she was listed as Teresa Hibbert.

If only I could find out Teresa’s mother’s maiden name.  Am I missing something?

and just being inquisitive - why did she need to get a copy of her marriage certificate in 1940, 6 years after the wedding. She may have lost the original, but how many times have you ever needed to show your marriage certificate for anything?  Teresa truly is a mystery!!  Can only find her "father" in one census.

[olives]

 I didn’t know she’d obtained a copy of her MC

[Gan Yam]

I didn’t know she’d obtained a copy of her MC

She was married in 1934, but look at the date where it says "witness my hand" 16th April 1940. The original would have been issued at the time of the wedding.

[Ashtone]

Maybe Teresa or Harry wanted a copy of the marriage cert (in 1940) in order to obtain a divorce? 

olives - Which lady are you related to? Teresa or Edith? Just curious...