Marriage 1941

[MollyC]

There is only one other entry for a Budlin anywhere in FreeBMD, death of John, 1850.

There does not appear to be a sustainable population of Budlins.  Either this is an occasional mis-spelling of a different name  --  or they were not usually resident in England and Wales.

[mckha489]

I didn’t know she’d obtained a copy of her MC

She was married in 1934, but look at the date where it says "witness my hand" 16th April 1940. The original would have been issued at the time of the wedding.

Jill, according to a tree,  was born 4th February 1940 (tree says her mother was LILY Woollas) they do not have her birth cert, but they do have her death cert which says she is of the Children’s Home, Horncastle. Daughter of Harry HIBBERT, engineer’s fitter.  Harry is the informant and his address is 20 Heneage Rd, Grimsby.

So..that is quite a distance apart.  Was the marriage certificate needed to prove they were married before admitting a baby to a children’s home? 
But if that was the case it doesn’t fit with mother being Lily Woollas.as that tree has.

Have you seen any of the actual birth certs?

[mckha489]

Jill is Jill Deborah.
There is a Lily Woollas born 1916/daughter of John William and Deborah Lois
Also George William born 1919

Having great trouble finding registrations but I think Deborah Lois was nee Sharpe previously married to Mullinger
And this is Lily’s birth

SHARPE, LILY  WOOLLIS     - 
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1082

[Ashtone]

The 1921 census is a good fit for Lily/Teresa Wollas. Parents and Lily from Grimsby, whereas younger child George William was born in Northants. Which is where Teresa and Harry married. Also, Lily's age in 1921 gives her a July 1916 birth (same as Teresa's DOB in 1939 Register).

[Gan Yam]

Just a thought - If Lily/Teresa are the same person and was born in 1916 and not as the marriage cert suggests 1911, she would have been a minor (17) when she married Harry - maybe married without parental permission? That might give rise to not being quite so truthful with her details!

[mckha489]

Deborah & John Woollas finally married in 1953

Marriages Mar 1953   (>99%)
MULLINGER    Deborah L    WOOLLAS    Louth    3b   864   
WOOLLAS    John W    MULLINGER    Louth    3b   864    

Added.

Perhaps so she could have a passport as in November 1953 they are returning from South Africa.
Address 334a, Park road, Dingle, Liverpool 8.  Added - I wonder if this is the address of George William born 1919, as he was in Liverpool in 1962 and died in 1965

In 1939 there are 3 redacted entries with them.

Louth, Brumptons Cott North End Tetney

Frustratingly John William is often James William or just James on the electoral rolls.  But I am reasonably sure it is the same man.

[mckha489]

I couldn't wait for the Northern Hemisphere to wake up - and downloaded Lily Woolis Sharpe's birth

Note the date of birth 08 Jul 1916
same as Teresa Hibbert in 1939.

I think there were 3 4 children born to Deborah Lois SHARPE when she was with Mr Mullinger

   MULLINGER, DAISY       SHARP 
GRO Reference: 1913  S Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1144
   MULLINGER, DEBORAH  LUCY     SHARP 
GRO Reference: 1909  S Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 619
   MULLINGER, VIOLET  ELIZABETH     SHARP 
GRO Reference: 1911  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1058
(added - Violet was a twin
MULLINGER, JAMES  HENRY     SHARP 
GRO Reference: 1911  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1059
He was killed when knocked off his motorbike in 1936)


then in 1921 is

MULLINGER, ERIC  FRANCIS     - 
GRO Reference: 1921  D Quarter in GRIMSBY  Volume 07A  Page 1008

but on FreeBMD mmn is given as STORR

these match this clip at the death of Deborah Lucy/Lucy Deborah

[mckha489]

I really hope this isn't a giant rabbit hole  But I am enjoying looking at these people anyway.

Father’s Denial: Domestic Tangle at Grimsby. Grimsby News, 25 January 1929

An extraordinary domestic tangle was revealed at the Grimsby Borough Police Court on Friday when a 17 years old girl, Violet Mullinger was charged with stealing a lady’s bicycle. The girl pleaded guilty to the charge. The cycle was the property of Dorothy Hall, of 36 Cromwell Road, Grimsby, and it was stolen from Moody Lane.
Det-Inspector Birtles said that the cycle was stolen on January 8th. On January 13th a man named Woolas brought the girl to the police station with the stolen bicycle and she admitted that she had stolen it.
The defendant had nothing to say except that she was sorry.
Supt. Tarttelin said that the girl was 17 years of age and a native of Grimsby; she was at the Edward street School until she was 14, then also worked in her grandmother’s house for two years. She returned home for a month and then entered domestic service. She was only in this situation a week, however, when she was taken away, it was believed by her mother.  It was ascertained that the girl had stolen 4s from her employer.
In November last, continued the Superintendent, the woman with whom the girl’s father was living told her to leave the house on account of going out on the previous Sunday night when she was told not to. She slept in a wash-house at her Grandmother’s house for a week. At the end of this period she was discovered by her father and taken back home.
It appears that the girl left home again on the 8th  inst, after a quarrel with her father’s housekeeper. She slept out again for two nights. The girl’s own mother was living with another man, and it was he who brought the girl to the police station with the stolen bicycle. 
Her  father was a plasterer and lived with this woman at 65, Edward Street. ‘Quite a mix-up” said Supt. Tarttelin in conclusion.
The girl’s father was called before the Stipendary. the latter asked him if he had been a party to turning the girl out of the house. Mullinger replied he had not.
The Stipendary:- This woman you are living with did then ___ That is not true; it is another of her lies.
Mullinger said he reported the girl as missing on the next day, and he was not aware that she was sleeping out in the wash-house at her grandmother’s.
“You seem to have shockingly neglected this girl in the past with this result” said the Stipendary to Mullinger. The latter said in reply to the Magistrate, that he could look after her if she were sent home for a week.
‘I don’t know how you have got your affairs in this mess, but the result is your daughter is here charged with theft’ added the Stipendary.
The case was adjourned for a week.

[olives]

I’m the niece of Edith.  My father was her brother.

They spent many years in Brighowgate children’s home while their mother, Annie, lived & worked in the Gy workhouse