Missing John White from Wiveliscombe after 1851

[overlandermatt]

My GG grandfather William White was born in Wiveliscombe Somerset in 1836. He was one of 11 children born to John (sr) and Elizabeth White. The family are there in the 1841 and 1851 census returns but not to be found after that date.

In 1857 The entire family except William and John (jr) move to Australia. William goes to Plymouth and joins the Royal Marines but I have no idea what happened to John.

John was born in Feb 1831 and was later recorded as a plumber and glazier in the 1851 census.

I have been in contact with a descendent of those that moved to Australia. Australian records suggest that the fate of William and John were unknown to John (Sr) as recorded on his death records.   

If anyone is able to find an opening here that would be wonderful.

Thank you in advance!

[amondg]

1901 census Wiveliscombe

John White 68? widower - Wheelwright born Wiveliscombe Somerset
Annie   -daughter 39

Could this be him?

UPDATED Maybe not wrong occupation.

[amondg]

There is also a death registered Axbridge September quarter 1890 for a John White age 59 birth circa 1831.

Ref: Vol 5c page 301

You can download a PDF version for £2.50 from the GRO site.

Information on it may prove useful.

[amondg]

Did James go as well I can see Henry and his wife Lucy nee Lock on different ship.

Could this be James
1881 census Stogumber
James White 42 Journey man Painter born Wiveliscombe  is a boarder with the Sully family.

[amondg]

By the way James had a twin sister Izott (Iset per registration) they were both baptised 18 December 1838 at Wiveliscombe
She is entry 642 and James in entry 643 in the register.

Death recorded 1839 reg. Wellington Vol 10 page 339.

[overlandermatt]

Thanks Amondg for your thoughts on this. I was aware of the death of Izott.

I've got a bit of digging to do on this - the Australian contingent of the White family have been well studied by a distant cousin in NSW but she had struggled with William and John. I was under the impression that James had gone but maybe not! Perhaps he is relatively easy to track down if he stayed close to Wiveliscombe.

I am still trying to track down the right William White's Royal Marine records - for the past couple of years I had the wrong William's record which on close examination turned out to be a false lead. I think he joined the Marines just as the rest of the family were going to Australia. 

I'll have to collate the various John Whites in and around Wiveliscombe to see whether there are any candidates that match your suggestions.

Thanks! I appreciate your efforts and will update when I have something to report.