Trying to find What happened to Eliza Whiteman

[Neale1961]

You may have missed the first son ......

Births Jun 1917   
Elliott    Dennis A          Whiteman       Shardlow    7b   859

[Neale1961]

and the first daughter ........


Name   Annie Elliott
Registration Date   1915
Quarter of the Year   Apr-May-Jun
Registration Place   Belper, Derbyshire, England
Mother   Whiteman
Volume   7b
Page   1236

[Jason Jase]

great...

I also just found a possible few more kids

Births Jun 1915 
ELLIOTT,    Annie    Whiteman    Belper    7b   1236


Births Jun 1917   
Elliott    Dennis A    Whiteman    Shardlow    7b   859
he died 21 March 1999 Derbyshire, England

[Neale1961]

great...

I also just found a possible few more kids

Births Jun 1915 
ELLIOTT,    Annie    Whiteman    Belper    7b   1236


Births Jun 1917   
Elliott    Dennis A    Whiteman    Shardlow    7b   859
he died 21 March 1999 Derbyshire, England

Correct, as I previously posted for you.

[DCB]

In 1921, they were at Hardys Row, Stanley Common, Stanley, Derbyshire.

A tree on Ancestry confirms that she married Joseph Crookes (1896-1965)

It also has pictures of Eliza, her first two husbands, and two children, Sydney and Edith Cresswell
Edith married William Vickers and they are probably the ones mentioned below:-

There are several memoriams in the Derbyshire newspapers after 1979:-

Derby Evening Telegraph, Monday, March 23, 1987
CROOKES, Eliza, March 22, 1979. -
 Gone are the days we spent together,
 But memories of you will last forever.
Sadly missed. - Bill, Edith and family

David

[Jason Jase]

Oh good so we now know where she was in 1921

As for their marriage, it took me a bit to find due to a spelling error.


Searching for Eliza Elliott married to Joseph Crookes his name is misspelled as Crockes
Elliott,    Eliza   Spouse Crockes    Shardlow    7b   1189

but when one searches for Joseph Crookes married to Eliza Elliott it is all correct
Crookes,    Joseph    Spouse Elliott    Shardlow    7b   1189
 

[Jason Jase]

So, I have Eliza more or less sorted.

I had a look at Eliza's sister Ethel

Ethel May Whiteman
B:20 Nov 1887 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
D:25 Sep 1978 Rushcliffe, Nottinghamshire, England

she married 3 Aug 1907 • Smalley, Derbyshire, England
to
Albert Henry Brown
B:11 Aug 1885 Horsley Woodhouse, Derbyshire, England
D:Oct 1949 Shardlow, Derbyshire, England

I'm not sure about the death of Ethel. Everyone has that death date. The death registry is under the name Whiteman rather than Brown. The birth year is also off by a bit, which doesn't always mean anything.

I was wondering if Ethel also remarried, and the death registry people attached to her is wrong.


I just found a living DNA match to Ethel and we are trying to figure this out, accurately.

She had twin sons

Harry Brown (Twins)
B:6 Jan 1908 Smalley, Derbyshire, England
D:22 Mar 1957 227 belper road, Stanley Common, Derbyshire, England

John Brown (Twin)
B:6 Jan 1908 Smalley, Derbyshire, England
D:Mar 1996 Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England


1911 census
County/Island   Derbyshire
Country   England
Street Address   45 Glendon Row Smalley Common Derbyshire
Marital Status   Married
Registration District Number   436
Sub-registration district   Horsley
ED, institution, or vessel   09
Piece   20962

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1939 registry
Line Number   30
Schedule Number   172
Sub Schedule Number   2
Enumeration District   Rcwq
Borough   Shardlow
Registration district   434;1
Inferred Spouse   Albert H Brown

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questionable death registry that may or may not be right
Name   Ethel Whiteman
Death Age   89
Birth Date   7 Jul 1889
Registration Date   Jan 1979
Registration Quarter   Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district   Rushcliffe
Inferred County   Nottinghamshire
Volume   8
Page   1584

[Comberton]

This looks a possible death for Ethel May Brown in 1969




https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCN-J6NV

[Neale1961]

Deaths    Jun    1969
BROWN    Ethel May        Shardlow    3a   1039     (Born- 1887)