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Census place name query
« on: Wednesday 24 April 24 09:53 BST (UK) »
John and Mary Ann are my husband's 3x great grandparents. I am having difficulty reading Mary's birth place and I wonder if anybody could help please. (Other censuses do not help, because they show a different place each time: variously Carbrook, Cranbrook and Shipton.) I have included the entries above and below in case that helps.

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Re: Census place name query
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 10:10 BST (UK) »
Ingam, [Ingham] Norfolk.  :-\

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Re: Census place name query
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 10:14 BST (UK) »
I wonder if "Shipton" is meant to be "Shipdham", only 4 miles from Carbrooke. Though, Ingham is no where in the vicinity.

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Re: Census place name query
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 10:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you. I was having trouble locating Shipton in Norfolk. Do you think Cranbrook might actually be Carbrooke (although the writing is quite clear)?

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Re: Census place name query
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 10:31 BST (UK) »
Not sure, looking at the 1851 census - is that the one you mean? It has John born Norfolk Cranworth and Mary Ann in Norfolk Cranbrook. Possibly the enumerator made a mistake in confusing the two place names, they are in Hornchurch Essex, so the enumerator may not have known (or been able to understand their accent).  :-\
HO 107/1772/718 pg 12

Another possiblity for Mary Ann in the 1861 is Hingham (5 miles from Carbrooke, though in the other direction from Shipdham). Spelt without the "H".
RG9/1070/51 pg 7

Modified to add census references in case anyone else wants to have a look.

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Re: Census place name query
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 10:39 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's the 1851 census I was referring to. That sounds plausible. Thank you very much for your help.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 10:56 BST (UK) »
From their children's birth registrations Mary Ann's maiden name was COL(E)MAN. There is a possible baptism at Carbrooke of Mary Ann COLEMAN on 11 August 1811, parents John and Mary COLEMAN.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 11:08 BST (UK) »
Just looking at some other COLEMAN's born around the same time in the same area, I see there is a James COLEMAN born c1815 (farm bailiff/steward) - in the 1871 census he says born Hingham, whilst in the 1881 he says born Shipdham. Interesting that there should be those 2 places seemingly equated again.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 April 24 11:50 BST (UK) »
According to friends who live there, "Shipton" is the local pronunciation for Shipdham, certainly among older inhabitants.
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