Brick Wall due to marriage not with GRO

[meaty]

Hi and thanks very much for the replies which are appreciated. I did indeed assume that they must have gone to Narbeth to get married, which is a bit of a jaunt, however on receipt of the certificate it became clear that it wasn't them. The reason being is that my William was a fisherman, except in 1846 on his daughter Mary's birth cert he is a clog maker. I was able to trace the other William (the collier) in the censuses proving they were seperate families. Sigh

You make a good point though, if they were not married maybe they waited until later in life and went elsewhere. His daughter Maria's marriage cert claims he was deceased by 1880 at her time of marriage. Is it possible that they NEVER married?

[wilcoxon]

1841 fisherman
1846 clogmaker
1851 fisherman
1861 fisherman
That seems a bit odd.

[KGarrad]

Maybe he worked as a clogmaker during the parts of each year not conducive to fishing?

Certainly, in the Isle of Man, most men were fishermen-farmers.
So, depending on the time of year they would either declare themselves as fishermen or farmers.

[meaty]

Yes and actually on his daughters marriage certificate i believe he is given as a carpenter so must have had to switch professions between 1871 and 1880.

I also cannot trace his wife Ann John in the 1881, or possibly she reverted to Griffiths if they never did marry, but maybe she died by 1881 too. I have checked every grave in the 2 obvious graveyards (St Dogmaels church and Blaenwaun chapel) with no luck so 1871 is the last mention of them.

[heywood]

There is this death - Cardigan 11b pg 6 December quarter 1873
Anne John 52 yrs

[heywood]

Did daughter Anne, marry Evan Davies in 1880?

1881 5427/72/19 - Greenfield Square, Cardigan

[meaty]

Thanks for replies and suggestions.
I will buy a scan of that death later on and see.
Also I have just checked the 1881 and yes it could very well be daughter Annie as after all on that census result her husband Evan is a sailor and much of this family including my line lived at Greenfirld Square so this all fits in. I will reply back after I get the pdf.
Many thanks

[jonw65]

I will reply back after I get the pdf.

It won't take long as you can get the digital image instantly for £2.50 from GRO
Sorry if you know that already, but it seems quite a few people don't realise.

[jonw65]

There is a burial, 10 Dec 1873, of an Ann John age 55 on FreeReg
Mynachlog-ddu / St Dogmael
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5d0e7743f493fd4c97bab1f4

Is that the right place? Same person?

ADDED
Probably not x 2!