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history of Thomas Steele
« on: Tuesday 30 April 24 00:38 BST (UK) »
My Great Grandfather was Thomas Steele born 1824 in Renfrew,Scotland . He emigrated to Canada in 1852. I would like info on his parents James and Mary(Kean)Steele

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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 16:33 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat  :)

Baptism for a Thomas Steel at ABBEY Parish, RENFREWSHIRE, SCOTLAND (Church of Scotland)
on 8th February 1824
Abode Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Parents James Steel and Mary Kean

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You say he went to Canada in 1852, do you have him or his parents on census prior to this
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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 20:34 BST (UK) »
James Stiel married Mary Keen 20 December 1806, Abbey Renfrewshire Scotland.

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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 April 24 20:46 BST (UK) »
Where are you getting the names of his parents?

If they married 1806 and didn't have a child until 1824 that's a really long time.


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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 09:59 BST (UK) »
The baptism I posted names his parents

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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 10:03 BST (UK) »
Yes I saw that but marrying 1806 and no children till 1824 seemed as though it was the wrong family.

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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 May 24 11:02 BST (UK) »
Hopefully the next time OP comes on here they will answer our questions  so we can progress with this.    :) :)
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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 May 24 04:01 BST (UK) »
   Welcome to Rootschat, R C Steele! Maybe we can steer you onto the right path with a little more info added. (Important to know if there is a proven connection to the parents / location you've suggested for Thomas)

  adding: reply to posts from amondg - Rosie's find isn't unusual (Plus this was the posted request) ...Once you've done this as often as we have, many outcomes are seen as possible. Grandmas giving birth to the uncles of her children's children. Found one gal from Scotland married as as she turned a teen, and gave birth to 16 live children in over 2 1/2 decades. My husband's ancestor was 70 when he fathered his last child with his generation younger second wife.

   Wondering if those are the correct parents as marriages in that era didn't often have parents listed...I found a tree on Family Search but there is no proof of connection to the couple stated. Thomas & Margaret died in Manitoba, so may have found the info on the death cert. altho the database shows both parents as unknown, whereas it is usually left blank so you have to pay for the cert. They both did die in the RM of LANGFORD MB, where George Henderson Steele married in 1900. Also they found him in 1851 so he immigrated earlier.https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/KC1Q-2CG

There may be a clue in that he worked as a carpenter as well as farmer...Also may be clues in the children's middle names: McKay, Henderson, ..  They had twins so were the Steel or Dunn families likely to bear twins???   Their grandchild Matthew Bramwell Steele had fraternal twins.

also 1861 He says born 1825
Janet 7  William 5   Matthew 3 - listed as died at birth, but that must have been Thomas  1
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=45571517

1871 He says b. 1827
 Thomas 4   John M 2   George 2
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=45571517

1881 says b. 1819   farmer & carpenter  (scroll down)
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=19453767
Thomas & Margaret - Noting that she's 43 with a 14 mo. old baby!!!
Jeanette 27  William D. 25  Maggie 16
Twins* John McKay Steel 12   George Henderson Steel 12
Archibald 9  Harry Steel 1

1891-Found them in Marquette Manitoba - but Margaret says she's a widow...Can't see him in 1891
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=24027518
 
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Re: history of Thomas Steele
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 May 24 14:35 BST (UK) »
Sorry...this is the correct url for the 1871 census
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=41469358

also here is the full 1851 where he's already with Margaret ...and shows perhaps a younger brother John Steel b.1825 Scotland
1851 https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/Home/Record?app=census&IdNumber=23744551
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