Bertram Byrne 1901 Hacketstown

[Evandarcy]

Hello my great grandfathers name is Bertie Byrne he was born in 1901 and dies in 1987. In 1930 at age 29 he married my great grandmother Elizabeth Byrne (1908-1946). I cannot find any information at all about Bertie Byrne's parents at all. The fathers name is left blank on the marriage certificate and I cannot seem to find his birth record. He does not show up on the 1901 census and in the 1911 census he is living with his grandmother. How can I possibly find his birth certificate and the name's of his parents? Bertie is short for Bertram. Bertie had 9 children with his first wife, there names are Albert, Pat, John, Tom, Bill, Michael, Jane, Elizabeth and Mary. He then had a further 8 children with his second wife there names are Bert, Paul, Peter, Dominic, Kathleen, Bridget, Marcella and Bernie. I'm telling you there names incase it can help find Bertie's parents names.

[heywood]

Post also on Carlow board. Perhaps replies should be there?

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=882361.

[carol8353]

Also posted here too...https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=882362.0;topicseen

[garstonite]

can I ask why you have Bill as a possible for his dad on the tree on Geneanet - is it Bill - or William ??
and Bertie is short for Albert / Herbert /Cuthbert etc - what makes you think he was Bertram ??

[Evandarcy]

can I ask why you have Bill as a possible for his dad on the tree on Geneanet - is it Bill - or William ??
and Bertie is short for Albert / Herbert /Cuthbert etc - what makes you think he was Bertram ??

Im very sure that his name was Bertram because thats what my grandfather, Bertie's son told me. But he was not close with his father and never met his grandparents.
As for Bill being Bertie's father that was just me hypothesising because Bill is Bertie's first son

[heywood]

Please can you keep the posts to the Carlow board.
See reply #1

[Wexflyer]

can I ask why you have Bill as a possible for his dad on the tree on Geneanet - is it Bill - or William ??
and Bertie is short for Albert / Herbert /Cuthbert etc - what makes you think he was Bertram ??

Im very sure that his name was Bertram because thats what my grandfather, Bertie's son told me. But he was not close with his father and never met his grandparents.
As for Bill being Bertie's father that was just me hypothesising because Bill is Bertie's first son

On the Carlow board you posted that Albert was Bertie's first son!