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When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« on: Thursday 02 May 24 08:40 BST (UK) »
Sarah Walsh was baptized in the Kilrane (Tagoat) area of Co. Wexford on 21-Feb-1858.
At some point, she acquired a second Christian name, to become Sarah Ann.
She married Isaac John Griffiths in Pontypool, Wales, in 1890.
Isaac went on to win the DCM in the Boer War.

Sarah and Isaac had six children together, from 1892 to 1903, in locations as varied as Aldershot, London, Egypt, and Wales.

in 1911 they were living in Pontypridd.

Isaac died 3 July, 1933, in Landaff, and was buried there.

I believe Sarah died later in the 1930s, but there are many deaths with the name Sarah Griffiths in the area. Is there any way to determine which one is the correct death, short of ordering all the death registrations, which is simply too expensive?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 May 24 08:51 BST (UK) »
Do you know if still living when husband died

There is this possible if in same area Llandaff

GRIFFITHS, SARAH  ANN age     83 
GRO Reference: 1944  M Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 385

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 May 24 08:53 BST (UK) »
Do you know if still living when husband died

There is this possible if in same area Llandaff

GRIFFITHS, SARAH  ANN age     83 
GRO Reference: 1944  M Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 385

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I believe she outlived her husband, but I can't be 100% certain.
That Sarah Ann should be in the 1939 register then....
I had a feeling she may have died before that.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 May 24 09:01 BST (UK) »
Another possible which would fit with age. Electrol my help rule in/out?

GRIFFITHS, SARAH  ANN  age   74 
GRO Reference: 1932  S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 540

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 May 24 09:06 BST (UK) »
Another possible which would fit with age. Electrol my help rule in/out?

GRIFFITHS, SARAH  ANN  age   74 
GRO Reference: 1932  S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 540

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That one looks promising.
I think the 1944 death can be eliminated - I located her in the 1939 register, and she is not with correct family.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 May 24 09:42 BST (UK) »
Maybe not the 1932 death either. I now recall why I think Sarah outlived Isaac - due to the wording of his death notice in July 1933.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 May 24 10:05 BST (UK) »
Isaac Griffiths made a will. Administration to Sarah Ann Griffiths. Widow.
Of Alameda. 60 Fairwater Grove.

Effects £770 9s 11d
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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 May 24 10:06 BST (UK) »
I would think it would be the Cardiff reg district having traced family, they were there from at least 1921 until 1933 when Isaac died.

Took out possible DOB on freebmd as she was a bit varied with her age, also likely not on 1939 register.

Another possible

Deaths Jun Q 1939   
Griffiths Sarah A age 78 Cardiff 11a 426

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: When Did Sarah (Ann) Walsh/Griffiths Die?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 May 24 10:10 BST (UK) »
I would think it would be the Cardiff reg district having traced family, they were there from at least 1921 until 1933 when Isaac died.

Took out possible DOB on freebmd as she was a bit varied with her age, also likely not on 1939

Another possible

Deaths Jun Q 1939   
Griffiths    Sarah A age 78 Cardiff 11a 426

Cas

Best looking option so far.... I think I may order this cert. - and the will
Many thanks to Cas and Wilcoxon
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area