Prussia

[Vixen999]

Hi

How easy is it to find records, birth registrations or marriage for those born or who were in Prussia before relocating to England.

I have a family Robert Battle and wife Hannah who had a few children in Prussia before relocating to Hull, Yorkshire.  Two of the children Emel/Amel?  Pole/Powell were born in Prussia and I wondered how easy it would be to locate their birth records and also the marriage record of Robert and Hannah as Im unsure on Hannah's surname.  They did have some children in Hull/Yorkshire but locating the records with a view to finding Hannah's maiden name has been difficult.

Are there any good sites where records such as birth and marriages that took place in Prussia can be researched?

Thanks

[garstonite]

there is no robert listed - but maybe that was the Anglicised version of his birth name - do you know which town / city he was born in and year of birth ??

have a sift through these and see if anything rings a bell .

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=battle&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=robert&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Germany&country__0__=DEU&region__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1

[garstonite]

do you know what year the first Battle child was born in Hull ?
ADDED
Mary J Battle - West Sulcoates  Hull - 1853
Anna Battle - West Sulcoates Hull - 1858
Thomas - """""""""""""""""""""""""" - 1859
Nancy - """""""""""""""""""""""""""" - 1868

are these Robert and Hannahs children born Hull ??

[garstonite]

OK - Hannahs birth place on 1851 census is Poland - not Prussia
Robert is a Tailor aged 25 born Prussia
Pole Battle aged 2 born Prussia
and they have a son Cornelia Battle b 1850 aged 0 born Hull

...................no sign of Emel / Amel
maybe look for a marriage of Cornelia Battle and Pole Battle
...........................................
ADDED - Possible marriage of Robert and Hannas Grandaughter

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL1L-49WK

[TreeSpirit]

#1:
Could these be a couple of births with variations of mum Hannah’s maiden name?:
BATTLE, JAMES
Mother’s maiden name: HOSKEY
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in DONCASTER IN THE COUNTIES OF YORK AND NOTTINGHAM Volume 09C Page 455
(baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66B5-WNL2)
-
BATTLE, ALBERT
Mother’s maiden name: HOSKIN
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 24


#2:
The family had moved to London by the 1871 census, but I’m wondering whether Pole/Powell stayed behind in Sheffield and started using the name Robert (like his dad).  E.g. this 1869 marriage to Alice Kirk: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6652-YL3T

If this is him, it would mean that he was born in Berlin and a tailor like his probable dad:
1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-XY6C
1891 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7LKJ-KMM
etc

[Vixen999]

there is no robert listed - but maybe that was the Anglicised version of his birth name - do you know which town / city he was born in and year of birth ??

have a sift through these and see if anything rings a bell .

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=battle&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=robert&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Germany&country__0__=DEU&region__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1

Hi the info I have for Robert is

BIRTH 1826 • Preußen, Germany

DEATH MARCH 1906 • Lambeth, London, England

[Vixen999]

do you know what year the first Battle child was born in Hull ?
ADDED
Mary J Battle - West Sulcoates  Hull - 1853
Anna Battle - West Sulcoates Hull - 1858
Thomas - """""""""""""""""""""""""" - 1859
Nancy - """""""""""""""""""""""""""" - 1868

are these Robert and Hannahs children born Hull ??

There are the children I have

Robert BATTLE
1846–1919

Powell Battle
1849–

Sophia Battle - found a record that was mis transcribed and believe Sophia may be one of the battle children
1850–1865

Emil Battle - Hull
1851–

Edit
James Battle - Doncaster
1856–1945

Albert Battle ecclesall bierlow
1859–

[Vixen999]

#1:
Could these be a couple of births with variations of mum Hannah’s maiden name?:
BATTLE, JAMES
Mother’s maiden name: HOSKEY
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in DONCASTER IN THE COUNTIES OF YORK AND NOTTINGHAM Volume 09C Page 455
(baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66B5-WNL2)
-
BATTLE, ALBERT
Mother’s maiden name: HOSKIN
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 24


#2:
The family had moved to London by the 1871 census, but I’m wondering whether Pole/Powell stayed behind in Sheffield and started using the name Robert (like his dad).  E.g. this 1869 marriage to Alice Kirk: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6652-YL3T

If this is him, it would mean that he was born in Berlin and a tailor like his probable dad:
1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-XY6C
1891 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7LKJ-KMM
etc

This Robert is the son of Senior Robert Battle born 1826

[Vixen999]

#1:
Could these be a couple of births with variations of mum Hannah’s maiden name?:
BATTLE, JAMES
Mother’s maiden name: HOSKEY
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in DONCASTER IN THE COUNTIES OF YORK AND NOTTINGHAM Volume 09C Page 455
(baptism: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66B5-WNL2)
-
BATTLE, ALBERT
Mother’s maiden name: HOSKIN
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 24


#2:
The family had moved to London by the 1871 census, but I’m wondering whether Pole/Powell stayed behind in Sheffield and started using the name Robert (like his dad).  E.g. this 1869 marriage to Alice Kirk: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6652-YL3T

If this is him, it would mean that he was born in Berlin and a tailor like his probable dad:
1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-XY6C
1891 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7LKJ-KMM
etc

This Robert is the son of Senior Robert Battle born 1826

And yes, thats the variants of Hannah's surname I have found on the gro.  However, Im wondering if they have become anglicized as she was born in Poland or Russia