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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #9 on: Friday 10 May 24 13:03 BST (UK) »
I see a couple at least of Alice & Nathaniel’s children’s baptisms are in the non-conformist registers.
So I wonder if the George Harcourt death age 30 buried    1 Sep 1842 at Spa Fields (countess of Huntingdon Connexion) is worth pursuing.
£2.50 to look at his death cert

HARCOURT, GEORGE       30 
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in SAINT JAMES WESTMINSTER  Volume 01  Page 75

He might be the one who married Margaret BLACK in 1836.  Two sons died in infancy, George Alexander and Richard and possibly an Eliza but I cannot see a birth reg. for her, all Countess of Huntingdon's Connexion.  They all died really close together in 1842 so perhaps they had the same lurgy.  Margaret remarried to a Tailor named William HALL in 1846.

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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #10 on: Friday 10 May 24 16:48 BST (UK) »
R,
Do you have Alice in 1841 and 1851?
This is the only candidate I have found so far - 1841, Alice Harcourt, 5 yrs in a Menham household.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQJW-YZV
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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #11 on: Friday 10 May 24 20:50 BST (UK) »
What do we think the other Witnesses names are?
Anne Hutton?  Alan/Adam Clarke?


Also..the officiating minister isn’t a regular at the church.
He is James King Went. (Not as in the newspaper)

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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #12 on: Friday 10 May 24 22:21 BST (UK) »
Wild hypothesising here..
James King Went was in Barbados, before London then Teignmouh.

In 1845 there is a George Harcourt who is a sergeant in the 1st Royal Regt at St Annes Garrison. Barbados
Wife is Martha and a son Henry John is baptised

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t5w/

But in the GRO regimental births George is 12th foot

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t5x/

Might be two Henry J Harcourts?
This one father is 1st foot again

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t5y/

Added…but it looks as though that man (George of the 1st foot) is still alive as an out pensioner in 1856 and so if he died before 1859 wouldn’t he have been recorded as Sergeant not Esquire?


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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 May 24 03:25 BST (UK) »
I see RJGR you have been logged in several times since your post. It would be good to know if you have any thoughts about what has been posted so far.   
And if you have Alice in 1841 & 1851 as asked.

Also…you mention “documents & items” with the connection to Baron Truro.  What are these documents?  Details?

Added….and which George Harcourt deaths you have followed and eliminated.

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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 May 24 11:55 BST (UK) »
I also have documents and items from Alice that assert that she was related somehow to Charles Robert Claude Wilde 2nd Baron Truro although I cannot find anything that supports this.

Has RJGR got the will of this Baron Truro guy? Proved at the Principle Registry, 26 May 1891. A copy only costs £1.50.

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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 11 May 24 14:10 BST (UK) »
I wonder if RJGR is receiving notifications of posts. Their profile shows they have been online since mckha489 posted earlier.
There are many published trees for CRC Wilde which show an adopted daughter, Emily Mowbray b 1872.
She is not in his household in 1881 though. I can’t see a reliable birth record for her.
She married Richard Wellesley in 1896 and he died soon after.

In that 1881 census, RGRG has a ward - Grenville G Grey b 1859 in the household - Many trees for this gentleman but no parents recorded.

Perhaps he provided for education and support for these young people.
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Re: Alice Evelyn Harcourt MYSTERY
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 11 May 24 14:41 BST (UK) »
Actually there is some info about Baron Truro's will in the newspapers. Looks like his ward Emily Mowbray was the big winner.