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Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« on: Friday 17 May 24 12:38 BST (UK) »
The marriage record for my 2x gt grandmother Ann Wilson to Benjamin Parkin in 1846 at Sheffield Cathedral gives her father as Thomas Wilson, a book keeper.
I have a baptism for an Ann Wilson to Thomas and Ann at Sheffield Cathedral 11 Apr 1824, DOB 24 March 1824.
In the 1841 Census for Stafford St., Sheffield, there is a Thomas Wilson,50 born Yorkshire, wife Ann, 50, children William, Thomas, Ann all 20, Mary and Sarah 15 (presume all ages rounded) but Thomas' occupation looks like Iron founder. 
I cannot find them in 1851.
Looking for a marriage for a Thomas Wilson to Ann there are two possibilities, both at Sheffield Cathedral, one in Oct 1811 to Ann Wilkin and one in Nov 1817 to Ann Washington. I cannot work out which one is correct, in order to go further back.
There is a baptism for a William Wilson to Thomas and Ann in 1818, Sheffield Cathedral and a Thomas Wilson in 1821 (Ann's brothers from the 1841 Census?)
Sorry if this is a bit of a lengthy post, but ,I wanted to give the information I had already found, to save duplication of effort, and which may or may not be correct.
Please can anyone help or advise how to get the correct Thomas/Ann marriage.
Thanks for reading,
Tig
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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 May 24 13:46 BST (UK) »
A Benjamin Parkin with wife Ann Parkin and children Joseph age 2 and Anne E age 4 months are living next to a Thomas Wilson with wife Mary in 1851 at Brightside.  (Her brother ?). Is this the right family.  Benjamin has the same occupation as that when he married, a Rod Roller

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PARKIN, JOSEPH       mmn WILSON 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 22  Page 572

PARKIN, ANN  ELIZABETH     mmn WILSON 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 22  Page 619
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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 May 24 14:10 BST (UK) »
The 1851 for Ann gives her age as 24 (bn c1827)
1861 - 34 (bn c1827)
place of birth Sheffield.

Her marriage in May 10th 1846 says she is 22 - was she telling porkies as with a year of birth on census as c1827 she would have been 19/20
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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 May 24 17:49 BST (UK) »
I have a baptism for an Ann Wilson to Thomas and Ann at Sheffield Cathedral 11 Apr 1824, DOB 24 March 1824.

The occupation for Thomas on that baptism is a Labourer.
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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 May 24 18:33 BST (UK) »
A long shot but worth a punt.   Wilson of Forth & Wilsontown in Lanarkshire were coal pit owners and Ironfounders.  An extended family and members went to England as successful merchants in London & Liverpool and did import / export with Russia & Sweden.  One of them was the founder  the famous Price's Candles  company.   I'm trying to prove connections with Wilsons as Solicitors in Broughton and Preston and Rawcliffe Hall as well as a Banker from Sussex.
There is plenty of info on all of it with a Google Search
cheers, Ian
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, COLLISONS,  Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands and Broughton.  Wilson - Ffrance of Rawcliffe,  Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Haywards Heath connections.

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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 May 24 18:56 BST (UK) »
Who were the witnesses at the marriage 1846, they are often relatives?

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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 May 24 19:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for replying.
Rosie99 - I will check out Thomas & Mary to see if they are family. I had concerns about the difference in age for Ann, but couldn't see a possible baptism in 1827 in Sheffield. Is it likely that Thomas would have been a labourer in 1824 but a book keeper by the marriage in 1846??

Ian - maybe a long shot but well worth looking into, thanks so much.

Amondg - I will have to look up the witnesses and come back.

My main issue, to progress back, is trying to decide whether Thomas Wilson married Ann Wilkin in 1811 or Ann Washington in 1817 or yet another Ann I have yet to find.

All suggestions welcome!
Thanks again
Tig
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Gane/Gaine;Somerset (Compton Martin)and South Wales
Thomas; South Wales

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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 May 24 20:15 BST (UK) »
Further to my earlier reply, the witnesses to the marriage of Benjamin Parkin and Ann Wilson in 1846 were Joseph Smith and V? Hudson. Benjamin was a widower, previously married in 1843 to Amelia Coates, who died in 1844. Joseph Smith and Hudson were witnesses to that marriage, too. Hudson seems to witness a lot of the marriages.

The witnesses to the Thomas Wilson = Ann Wilkin 1811 marriage were Samuel Sidebottom and what looks like Sarby/Larby? 
To Thomas Wilson = Ann Washington in 1817 were Joseph Washington and Joseph Hudson

I don't know if any of this helps. I've been confused by the Wilson family for years. A lot of them in Yorkshire and all using the same names. The Parkins aren't a piece of cake either!!
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Hammond(s): Leicestershire (North Kilworth)and Yorkshire
Barratt :Oldbury,West Midlands and Yorkshire
Lanyon:St Just,Cornwall and South Wales
Gane/Gaine;Somerset (Compton Martin)and South Wales
Thomas; South Wales

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Re: Marriage of Thomas Wilson of Sheffield
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 May 24 23:59 BST (UK) »
The Parkins aren't a piece of cake either!!

I see what you did there, if that doesn't take the biscuit !

cheers Ian
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, COLLISONS,  Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands and Broughton.  Wilson - Ffrance of Rawcliffe,  Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Haywards Heath connections.