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Occupation: Time Seller !
« on: Monday 27 May 24 14:59 BST (UK) »
Just came across this (as you do) when looking for something completely different

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4nn7gew9zxo

I found J H Belville in 1841 and 1851, but he rather boringly lists his occupation as "Astronomer" and
"Civil service of the Royal Observatory". Not found the widow and daughter who took on the time selling business.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Occupation: Time Seller !
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:18 BST (UK) »
Is this the daughter?

The Citizen Wednesday April, 4th 1945

Her Strange Job

Miss Elizabeth Ruth Belville of Plough Lane Beddington, Surrey, who for half a century took the Greenwich time to London business houses on a watch one hundred years old, left £189. She was 89

Elizabeth Ruth Belville, spinster
Probate to Lewes Hector Read, Miller
Died 07 Dec 1943
Probate Norwich 10 Feb 1945
Effects £186. 6s. 10d.

1921 Census Surrey
Ruth Belville b1856 Blackheath Kent
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Re: Occupation: Time Seller !
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:20 BST (UK) »
Yes that looks like the daughter who took on the business after her mother and father
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:23 BST (UK) »
Just found Elizabeth Ruth in 1901, living on own means, with 4 single male lodgers in their 20s.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:24 BST (UK) »
and possibly mother & daughter on 1871 & 1881 census

Crooms Hill, Greenwich, London & Kent, England
Maria E H   Belville   Head    1812   School mistress   Lowestoft, Suffolk
Ruth   Belville   Daughter    1854   Annuitant   Greenwich, Kent
plus boarders, servants

N 1 Ward, 44, Crooms Hill, Greenwich, London & Kent
Maria E Belville   Head   Widow 1812   School mistress   Lowestoft, Suffolk
Ruth   Belville   Daughter     1855   Governess (sch)   Greenwich, Kent
plus boarders & servant
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Re: Occupation: Time Seller !
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:25 BST (UK) »
Found ER in 1939, a reference to time in her occupation!
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:26 BST (UK) »
See FreeBMD Dec 1851 W London
John Henry BELVILLE married Maria Elizabeth LAST

Edit to add Marriage detail is on ancestry
John's occ Gentleman
Married   22 Dec 1851 Saint Andrew, Holborn
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:28 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Monday 27 May 24 15:26 BST (UK)
See FreeBMD Dec 1851 W London
John Henry BELVILLE married Maria Elizabeth LAST

So Maria Last was his last wife  ;D
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:34 BST (UK) »
Burial of daughter there's a picture and info.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/92752993/elizabeth-ruth_naomi-belville

Elizabeth Ruth Naomi Belville
Baptism  Apr 1854 St Alphege, Greenwich
Father   John Henry Belville, Gentleman Mother Maria Elizabeth
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