William Grieves and Rachel Little

[Octaviusdance]

Hello

I am trying to trace the marriage record of WILLIAM GRIEVES to RACHEL LITTLE.  I believes they were married in Dumfriesshire

Grateful for any helpwith this and for any earlier information about either of them

Best wishes

Octo

[Octaviusdance]

Hello

Forgot to add  in about 1840

Thanks

Octo

[David Nicoll]

Hi,
   Can you give us any hints as to why you think they were married there and how you got the names? It helps when searching.

[David Nicoll]

Hi,

   Putting your two posts together.

   William Greave and Rachel are with family in Longtown, Cumberland in the 1851 census.
   with
    Ellen, John and Archibald, with Archibald having been born in Longtown.

[Octaviusdance]

Hello

In 1841 Scottish census they at Wattaman, Half Morton Dumfriesshire.
In 1851 census they were at Longtown

Their Children-

Archibald b1839 in Scotland died before 1851
Ellen b1841  in Scotland
John b1843 in Scotland
Archibald b 27 June 1844
Ann b1847 Scotland
William, Jane, James, Isabella all born in Longtown

(Archibald and William appear to be family names that are handed down)

I have no Knowledge of the baptisms of either William or Rachel or of their marriage

[Forfarian]

Helen was baptised in Kirkpatrick Fleming on 7 June 1840.

[David Nicoll]

Thanks, that helps a lot.

Especially as Forfarian points out Helen appears to have been born in Kirkpatrick Fleming. She is recorded as Lawful daughter, so they were married, but there is a big gap in the Kirkpatrick Fleming Marriage records.

There are however other Littles having children in the parish at the time so it seems possible Rachel was born there.

There is also a William Grieve born 1811 in Middlebie, the next parish over to John Grieve and Helen Gillies. So he would be a possibility. Given the name Helen.

Do you have any later census information for them?

[Octaviusdance]

Hello

1861 census has the family minus John and Archibald living at Sandyside? Cottage next to the Turnpike Toll Gate in the Township of **neside  Could be Lyneside

Also have 1871/1881/1891/1901census if useful

William died 16 March 1902
Rachel died 19 December 1895

Hope that helps

Best

Octo

[Octaviusdance]

Hello again

William's age in 1861 census is given as 44 and Rachel's as 45

Ehanks

Octo