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Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:08 BST (UK) »
I’m trying to piece together Harry Warner’s early life and any marriages before he married – Ida Temperley (Jones) in 1953, him and his wife Ida were part of my extended family I knew/met them when I was a little lad.
as far as I know Harry was born in Preston Lancashire. 10.2.1904. to 10.5.1999 (Middlesbrough).
I’m using Familysearch, I was researching his wife (mainly)Ida Jones Marriage(s) (rootschat.com)
came across this Harry Warner in household of George Jackson, "England and Wales Census, 1911" • FamilySearch  Which is confusing me a lot (doesn’t take much),
his parents Edward and Annie, I have found (I think) in 1901 Edward Warner in household of Elizabeth Turner, "England and Wales Census, 1901" • FamilySearch
I can’t find any record of harry or any of their other children Edward Warner (1877–Deceased), Annie Rowland (1878–Deceased) • Landscape View • Family Tree • FamilySearch or them, on the 1911 census (more than likely me).
Would someone be kind enough to have a look for me please, and more interesting if harry married before Ida? as I am getting absolutely nowhere with it.

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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:11 BST (UK) »
I have no idea why, but my hyperlinks are not working on the above!

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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:30 BST (UK) »
The 1999 death, Stockton, Durham gives a birthdate 20th February 1904.

1911- Family Search is confusing as Annie Warner is a boarder with Harry and Maggie, 10 yrs.
Annie is transcribed wrongly.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49H-8MQ
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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:35 BST (UK) »
GRO is free to use to check mother’s maiden name
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

There is a birth for Harry Warner with mother Rowland
Also a birth for Margaret Warner with mother Rowland

Edward Warner married Annie Rowland in 1899, Preston
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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:43 BST (UK) »
In 1901 3962/ 8/7

Edward Warner is a ‘Ship Riviter ‘ maybe he was working away from home in 1911

There is a 1914 birth in Preston for Roland Warner - mother Rowland

You can check 1921 census indexes for free on FindMyPast. These names are all listed and it looks as though they are together.
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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:49 BST (UK) »
The 1999 death, Stockton, Durham gives a birthdate 20th February 1904.

1911- Family Search is confusing as Annie Warner is a boarder with Harry and Maggie, 10 yrs.
Annie is transcribed wrongly.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49H-8MQ

Thank you, so Maggie (Margaret) and Annie should be Warner? living with the Jacksons?

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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 July 24 17:31 BST (UK) »
Yes they are. FS transcription is incorrect.
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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 July 24 19:07 BST (UK) »
Edward appears to have married Florence Cherrington in Preston in Dec qtr 1934. 

Births March qtr 1887   

Florence CHERRINGTON Preston    8e 653

Deaths March qtr 1934   
Annie Warner    56    Preston    8e   743

Deaths June qtr 1955 
WARNER    Edward    78    Preston    10f   295

Deaths March qtr 1973   
WARNER    FLORENCE    8DE1886    AMOUNDERNESS    10B   81
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Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 July 24 19:15 BST (UK) »
I forgot that Bill asked about Harry’s marriage/s too.

1953 Durham
Harry Warner and Ida Temperley

The marriage certificate would show his status.

There are lots of Harry Warner marriages - see Free BMD.
Do you know when he moved to Durham?

1938 Preston
Harry Warner and Linda M Thomas

There is a death for Linda M Warner, 1987 Preston  b 1901 and a matching person in 1939, so the 1938 marriage does not seem correct.
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