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Offline garydevine

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Re: DIVEN brothers - NSW help
« Reply #9 on: Monday 22 July 24 17:56 BST (UK) »
Wow

Thank you all so much!

Wasn't expecting such a quick response but forgot about the time difference haha!

Thank you I just get lost when it comes to trying to find Australian records. Was doing South Africa last week and it was taking me round in circles lol

Are there any records on when and what ship Charles and William went over?

Also the record for the marriage is Charles he married Jessie's sister :)
Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Devine, McGarry, Daisley, McGuire, Mullen, Sheridan, Ford
Blantyre, Lanarkshire - Gibson, Hamill, McInulty
Avondale, Strathaven - Mulligan, Dempsey
Glasgow - Sinclair, Allison, McFarlane
Renfrewshire - Allison
Perthshire - Sinclair, Roy, Donaldson
Edinburgh and Caithness Thurso - Sutherland
Edinburgh and Ayrshire - Sheridan

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Re: DIVEN brothers - NSW help
« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 July 24 22:50 BST (UK) »

Are there any records on when and what ship Charles and William went over?

I can’t see when Charles arrived in Australia but he must have been here when his wife arrived…..

Mrs. Annie Diven age 25, housewife and daughter Mary age 2 months
Arrived Sydney 1 July 1914 per “Euripides”

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Possibly arriving NSW, 11 Aug 1913 per “Woniora” as ship’s crew
Wm Diven, age 21, born Stranraer, fireman & Trimmer
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: DIVEN brothers - NSW help
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 22:27 BST (UK) »
This may not be the right track but I have known of many Diven, Devine families etc from Ireland. 

Some of my Irish family moved to Stranraer in Scotland before emigrating elsewhere to NZ/US. So it may have been a place for chain migration from parts of Ireland. I have not done any research on Stranraer to see what drew them there from Ireland.

So going further back from the Divens in Stranraer may involve hours of fun in Irish records!  ;D


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Re: DIVEN brothers - NSW help
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 22:33 BST (UK) »
My own Devines are from Ireland in Leitrim and are first recorded in Ayr but this is my aunts tree I'm doing but yeah it's definetly an Irish thing. The furtherest I can get back is to a Dicen born in Ireland 1792 and coming over in the mid 1820s with his wife and in Stranraer they loved on Little Ireland which was a name of the street all occupied by Irish families and then next to it was Little Dublin. So was full of Irish settlers. I've come across Diven being soelt Devine a couple times and wonder if it really was Devine or if it's because of their accents that it sounded like Diven or vice versa haha but Diven seems to be the majority on records. They were all labourers of plasterers. It was a small village back then with a port. I think it was the nearest place for immigrant to land in Scotland. They are all from just where the border of north and south Ireland is now.

Gary
Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Devine, McGarry, Daisley, McGuire, Mullen, Sheridan, Ford
Blantyre, Lanarkshire - Gibson, Hamill, McInulty
Avondale, Strathaven - Mulligan, Dempsey
Glasgow - Sinclair, Allison, McFarlane
Renfrewshire - Allison
Perthshire - Sinclair, Roy, Donaldson
Edinburgh and Caithness Thurso - Sutherland
Edinburgh and Ayrshire - Sheridan

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Re: DIVEN brothers - NSW help
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 16 November 24 03:49 GMT (UK) »
Charles DIVEN died 1966 Balmain NSW
Electoral roll shows him working as a plasterer.

Wife Annie - did they marry in UK?
Possible marriage in 1913 Stranraer to Annie McWhirter

Daughter - Elizabeth J Diven born 1917 Glebe NSW daughter of Charles and Annie
Daughter - Ailsa C Diven born 1922 Glebe NSW daughter of Charles and Annie

Daughter - Mary Watson Diven born 1914 in Scotland?

Hi Gary,
Charles Diven & Annie Diven nee McWhirter where my Great Grandparents.
Parents of my Maternal Grandmother Ailsa Craig Boland nee Diven.
My Grandma had 8 children of which My Mum is the second eldest.
Mary was known as May and and Elizabeth Josephine was known as Joy, My Great Aunties May and Joy - they remained single.