Michael Egan

[gnorman]

Hi all, I have a relative, Michael Egan, who was born in Roscommon about 1851. He married Ann McDonnell, a widow 9 years his senior, who's maiden name was Ward. They married sometime just before 1870, when they had their first child in Farnworth, Bolton.

I know it may be a long shot as I have no other siblings or earlier generations at the moment but i was wondering how I may go about looking for and ordering a birth certificate for him?

Thanks, Luke

[Milliepede]

Are you looking to find his parents?

The marriage certificate for him and Ann should give you his fathers name/occupation to start off with.

[gnorman]

Hi Milliepede,
I'm looking for any information at all from Ireland (inc how to apply for a birth certificate). I don't have a copy of the marriage certificate so far, I haven't been able to find one yet.
Thanks, Luke

[QueenoftheWest]

i was wondering how I may go about looking for and ordering a birth certificate for him?

Irish genealogy can be very difficult, as civil registration of births did not start until 1864, so there will not be a birth certificate for him. If he was baptised Catholic, then there is a chance that he has a surviving baptism record, but there is no guarantee. Non-Catholic baptism records from this time are also hard to find.

Queenie 

[CaroleW]

Where was Ann born?

[gnorman]

Ann married her first husband Michael McDonnell in 1860 - the document reads:

Ann Ward of Dorrents Island, daughter of William Ward & Ann Higgins to Michael McDonnell of Quay Street, son of Bartholomew McDonnel & Mary Anne Gannon. In St John’s Catholic Church, Calry, Sligo by Thomas O’Connor. Witnessed by Martin Brien and Mary Higgins on 18th February 1860.

[CaroleW]

1871 entry is Hagan but no McDonnell children which is strange if Ann was previously married in 1860.

Son William’s birth reg shows mmn Ward but if you can’t find a McDonnell/Egan marriage - how do you know she was a widow?

[heywood]

1881 4076/60/37

Shows a step daughter Mary A McDonnell, 19yrs b Sligo
Here is her baptism 20th Nov 1861
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633922?locale=en#page/95/mode/1up
(Register number 1938)

[CaroleW]

Thanks Heywood

Couldn't find them in 1881