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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 15 August 24 08:54 BST (UK) »
Quote from: rosie17 on Thursday 15 August 24 08:38 BST (UK)
I think we have found the correct mother it's the father Jacob Owens that's the problem .Obviously never been a marriage and nothing matching on census records for him  ???

Rosie

It is odd that there are two Jacob Owens in Kilmarnock  - Jacob was not such a common name and Jacob Owens is even more uncommon. 
The two Jacobs are too young at 12 on1841 Census to be putative fathers.
One of the Jacob's is recorded as being 24 on 1851 Census - the other is 23.

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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 15 August 24 09:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: loobylooayr on Thursday 15 August 24 08:54 BST (UK)
Quote from: rosie17 on Thursday 15 August 24 08:38 BST (UK)
I think we have found the correct mother it's the father Jacob Owens that's the problem .Obviously never been a marriage and nothing matching on census records for him  ???

Rosie

It is odd that there are two Jacob Owens in Kilmarnock  - Jacob was not such a common name and Jacob Owens is even more uncommon. 
The two Jacobs are too young at 12 on1841 Census to be putative fathers.
One of the Jacob's is recorded as being 24 on 1851 Census - the other is 23.

Looby

Exactly  ;)


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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 15 August 24 11:37 BST (UK) »
There is also a Jacob Owen, aged 20, in Old Monkland. He could of course be any age from 20 to 24, and the right age of father a child on 1840-ish.
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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 15 August 24 15:15 BST (UK) »
A lot of messages here in the past few hours!

It is possible he was born after the 1841 census. On all censuses apart from 1851 he consistently ages 10 years and is on a 0 at each census, which would make me guess 1841. It makes sense his birthdate is off a bit on 1851 given he wasn't with his family.

Thank you for finding James & Agnes Wylie, that was elluding me. I am now sure that this Agnes is William's mother.

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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 15 August 24 18:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: danieloks2ndaccount on Thursday 15 August 24 15:15 BST (UK)


Thank you for finding James & Agnes Wylie, that was elluding me. I am now sure that this Agnes is William's mother.


Agree  :)

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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 15 August 24 22:07 BST (UK) »
A very helpful person found these for me, Jacob & Agnes in the Kirk sessions January 1841.

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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #33 on: Friday 16 August 24 07:17 BST (UK) »
That's great getting these records ..

I noticed this marriage and wondered

Jacob Owens
Susan Bell
7 June 1850
Kilmarnock Ayr
Can't seem to find them on census records so far


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Re: Jacob Owens (+ wife)
« Reply #34 on: Friday 16 August 24 13:09 BST (UK) »
I did wonder that however the kirk session noted that Jacob had left the area.
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