Marriage of James Moore Ardtrea Co. Tyrone

[daljul]

I am hoping someone can help sort the correct information regarding James Moor/Muir.
He married Elizabeth Purvis 7th February 1852 Ardtrea Co. Tyrone. The marriage details shows James bachelor, full age, father Archibald Moore. Elizabeth Purvis spinster, full age, father as James Purvis, and they were both living at Eglish.

Children John b 1861, Esther b 1862, Margaret b 1865, Jane 1867, William 1870
The 1871 census shows the family living at Wood Street, Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland James Moore age 37 Labourer b Ireland, Elizabeth wife age 36 b Ireland, Henry son age 17 Coal miner b 1854 Ireland, Archibald son age 15 Coal drawer b1856 Ireland, Elizabeth daughter age 13 Cotton spinner b 1858 Ireland, James son age 10 Relayworker & scholar b1861 Ireland,John son age 10 Relayworker & scholar b1861 Ireland, Esther daughter age 8 Scholar b1863 Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland, Margaret daughter age 6 Scholar b1865 Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland, Mary (Jane) daughter age 4 b 1867 Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland, William son age 1 b1870   Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland.

I have checked the children's records and found a confusing situation.
Henry b 1854 (unable to find a marriage but he had two illegitimate children to Agnes McLachlan)
Archibald b 1856 At the time of marriage in 1877 gives mother (ms) as Hutchison
Elizabeth b 1858 At time of marriage in 1881 gives mother (ms) as Hutchison
James b 1861 At time of marriage in 1892 gives mother (ms) as Hutchison
John b 1861 At time of marriage in 1884 gives mother (ms) as Purvis
Ester b 1862 birth cert shows mother (ms) as Purvis
Margaret b 1865 birth cert shows mother (ms) as Purvis
Jane b 1867 birth cert shows mother (ms) as Purvis
William b 1870 birth cert shows mother (ms) as Purvis
Sarah b 1873 Sorn Ayrshire, Scotland birth cert shows mother (ms) as Purvis
 
James Moor b 1834 died 1899 Sorn Ayrshire, Scotland. Elizabeth (mn Purvis) died 1905 Sorn Ayrshire
 I can't find a marriage of James Moore & Elizabeth Hutchison or a death for her and how can James and John who are both shown as born 1861 Ireland have mother's with different maiden names.

It doesn't help that they were both called Elizabeth.
I am confused!!!
dinkey

[aghadowey]

I can't find a marriage of James Moore & Elizabeth Hutchison or a death for her and how can James and John who are both shown as born 1861 Ireland have mother's with different maiden names.

Years of birth estimated from census records or death registrations? if so, could be incorrect.
It's not uncommon to find different surnames for mother's listed in records- one of the names could have been her maiden name, stepfather's name, name of mother's partner, surname of previous husband, etc.

For reference here's married of James Moore to Elizabeth Purvis in 1852-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1852/09427/5415050.pdf

[ColC]

Is this the marriage and death of John?

JOHN MOORE to MARION CLARK
1884 Sorn

JOHN MOORE 27 mmn HUTCHISON
died 1887 Paisley

It does not solve the problem of Elizabeth Hutchison but it might solve the issue of his year of birth.
James and John are on the 1881 census with the family in Sorn both 19 noted as born Sorn but clearly not.

Colin

[daljul]

ColC

Thank you for your reply and i appreciate you taking the time to check it out. I had a look at the death record you gave as 1887 but that shows mother as Margaret Hutchison and married to Sarah Boyles. Informant of death was William James Ramsey nephew.

John did marry Marion Clark but i have confimed his death as per certificate as 11 July 1930 Glasgow John Moore widower of Marion Clark. Occupation at time of death Railway Yardsman. Usual residence at death 864 Rutherglen Road Glasgow Scotland. Parents James Moore Railway Shunter & Mother Elizabeth Purvis. Death registered by daughter Elizabeth Smith. Her address 440 Castlemilk Road Glasgow. This is definitely the correct John Moore