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Death of Thomas Ryan in February 1907 (Vehicular Manslaughter)
« on: Monday 19 August 24 00:54 BST (UK) »
Can anyone find the outcome of this case?

Ireland, Petty Session Court Registers, Tipperary, 1818-1919 for John Sawer
Defendant: John Sawyer (Aherlow Castle)
Victim: Thomas Ryan
Incident date: Feb. 16th, 1907
Trial date: Feb. 28th, 1907

Johnny boy was hell on wheels apparently, he had been ticketed for hitting someone prior as well.

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Re: Death of Thomas Ryan in February 1907 (Vehicular Manslaughter)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 August 24 23:46 BST (UK) »
March 1 1907, Belfast Newsletter.
Result: Discharged.

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Re: Death of Thomas Ryan in February 1907 (Vehicular Manslaughter)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 August 24 07:14 BST (UK) »

Your link to Ancestry only opens at a subscription page (for Ancestry non-users).
Can you not snip the relevant text and add the attachment for others to see?
It is much better if you can post a clip of the image.


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Re: Death of Thomas Ryan in February 1907 (Vehicular Manslaughter)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 August 24 09:09 BST (UK) »
The court record (viewable on FindMyPast) simply says "Information Refused".

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=ire%2fpettys%2f005174675%2f00935&parentid=ire%2fpettys%2f005174675%2f00935%2f2080579

This is the document that Q941AMI is trying to share with us.
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Re: Death of Thomas Ryan in February 1907 (Vehicular Manslaughter)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 August 24 15:23 BST (UK) »
The Cork Examiner of 22nd February, 1907 has a fairly detailed article on the inquest.
The Cork Weekly Examiner of 9th March, 1907 carries a report on the Petty Sessions, which ends with the statement that "(District Inspector)Moore applied to have accused sent for trial as he submitted that a prima facie case had established".
Can't find any mention after that.
Coffey, Cummins [Rathfalla, Tipperary], Cummins [Skirke, Laois], Curran, Dillon [Clare], Fogarty [Garran, Laois/Tipp], Hughes, Keshan (Keeshan), Loughman [Harristown and Killadooley, Laois], Mallon [Armagh], Malone, Markham [Caherkine, Clare], McKeon(e) [Sligo/Kilkenny/Waterford], McNamara, Meagher, Prescott [Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford?], Rafferty, Ryan, Sullivan, Tobin
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Re: Death of Thomas Ryan in February 1907 (Vehicular Manslaughter)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 August 24 20:20 BST (UK) »
As advised at reply #1 -
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