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Need help with ancestry tree
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 04:32 BST (UK) »
One of my family members has ancestry and I知 trying to figure out if my tree is accurate. She connected with a man who has studied his genealogy for a very long time with his family, she emailed him and he said yes this is our family. So they connected our tree together. Personally I want to find out for myself if it is true, because deep back to my 17th great grandfather is a man named sir Iain John Macfarlane, his mother is Barbara Stewart and his father is Andrew Macfarlane of Arrochar. I looked online to see if he did have a mother named Barbara stewart on familysearch, ancestry, geni, and they all say yes. Apparently her father is John Stewart 1st earl of Lennox and her mother is Margaret Montgomery, apparently that lineage leads to royalty such as king James vi. I was intrigued when I found that out but again it might be too good to be true. So I went back to what I do know, my 3rd great grandfather William Nelson Brattin. I知 trying to see if his lineage leads to my supposed 7th great grandmother Anne Macfarlane, where her lineage I think continues to the Macfarlanes.

I fear this might be impossible, I did see some sources saying Anne macfarlane is related to our brattin. But I知 stuck, anyone more experienced in genealogy I would love any advice or help. I know ancestry is not exactly factual, but I want to see if any of this is true.

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Re: Need help with ancestry tree
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 August 24 17:28 BST (UK) »
Dump ancestry and work on  Scotlands people.

Just keep working at it, and take it as a hint, not a definite link to a famous name a further 14 generations further back.
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Re: Need help with ancestry tree
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 August 24 07:57 BST (UK) »
I can find two William Nelson Brattins (uncle and nephew) The younger WNB is the son of James M Brattin. The older WNB and James M are sons of Robert F (Franklin?) Brattin b abt 1814 (1860 census says Kentucky, 1850 says Tennessee for birthplace), family moved to Missouri. Sources : various US censuses on Familysearch. That gets you one more generation back.
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Re: Need help with ancestry tree
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 August 24 09:18 BST (UK) »
I can find two William Nelson Brattins (uncle and nephew) The younger WNB is the son of James M Brattin. The older WNB and James M are sons of Robert F (Franklin?) Brattin b abt 1814 (1860 census says Kentucky, 1850 says Tennessee for birthplace), family moved to Missouri. Sources : various US censuses on Familysearch. That gets you one more generation back.

I appreciate you looking for me! I do know I might be related to William Nelson bratton. His son is Thomas fletcher bratton who I know is related to me. I believe Williams father may be Robert Franklin bratton but im trying to find sources to confirm that. My family come from around the Missouri area so I think that might be true.


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Re: Need help with ancestry tree
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 August 24 11:51 BST (UK) »
It is always best to research it yourself.  The trouble with the sites you mention is they have trees where people just copy blindly without checking sources, these records are then assumed to be accurate as so many people have them.

Scotlands people that Pauline mentioned is the best place for Scottish records once you get back to Scotland  :)
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 August 24 12:37 BST (UK) »
(1860 census says Kentucky, 1850 says Tennessee for birthplace),
They can't both be right, obviously, but it might be a clue to their migration path. In other words, before they lived in Missouri they lived in Kentucky. Before that in Tennessee.
From there I'd guess North Carolina and before that Virginia and/or Pennsylvania and/or Maryland.
It's going to be tough tracing them accurately.

Does 'the man who has been doing genealogy for a long time' have good sources for his conclusions? As one respected genealogist once said, long before ancestry trees came along, the way to do your family history is to find the person who has already done it and ask him to share.





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« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 August 24 13:06 BST (UK) »
(1860 census says Kentucky, 1850 says Tennessee for birthplace),
They can't both be right, obviously, but it might be a clue to their migration path. In other words, before they lived in Missouri they lived in Kentucky. Before that in Tennessee.
From there I'd guess North Carolina and before that Virginia and/or Pennsylvania and/or Maryland.
It's going to be tough tracing them accurately.

Does 'the man who has been doing genealogy for a long time' have good sources for his conclusions? As one respected genealogist once said, long before ancestry trees came along, the way to do your family history is to find the person who has already done it and ask him to share.

Two censuses say Robert F's birthplace was Tennessee, so I think that is more likely to be correct, the family definitely went on to Missouri, between 1848 and 1850, judging by birthplaces of his children. Some online trees have Robert's parents marrying in Kentucky and his older brother being born there, but I haven't found records to verify that yet. Looking at a map it does show a migration from east to west.   
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Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
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Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
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Re: Need help with ancestry tree
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 August 24 17:25 BST (UK) »
(1860 census says Kentucky, 1850 says Tennessee for birthplace),
They can't both be right, obviously, but it might be a clue to their migration path. In other words, before they lived in Missouri they lived in Kentucky. Before that in Tennessee.
From there I'd guess North Carolina and before that Virginia and/or Pennsylvania and/or Maryland.
It's going to be tough tracing them accurately.

Does 'the man who has been doing genealogy for a long time' have good sources for his conclusions? As one respected genealogist once said, long before ancestry trees came along, the way to do your family history is to find the person who has already done it and ask him to share.

That痴 actually exactly what I知 gonna do, I知 going to ask my aunt where she contacted this man and see if I can check where he got his sources. If it痴 from other family trees then I値l be bummed out lol. But he seemed pretty legit. I値l get back to you if I find anything convincing.

I also did find a convincing history page on Robert F Brattins father, John bratton in ancestry. As well as a 1850 census of Robert and his wife Elizabeth, whom had a son named William Bratton. A clue maybe?