Ardrasson marriages

[Karytay]

Looking for a marriage record for Archibald Taylor  b. 1795 and Catherine Sinclair b.abt.1801. I have the banns record which I found on "Find my Past" 26 Feb 1825 in Ardrosson. I cannot find the actual marriage record were they give more info, like the name of the fathers, age, address ext.

Unless that record did not exist  in 1825?

Thanks

[Forfarian]

If you are looking for the original document anywhere other than at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk you won't find it.

Screenshot from index attached. Note that it's Ardrossan not Ardrasson.

However it is very unlikely to tell you the names of the couple's parents or their ages as this is before the start of civil registration (1855). It might tell you where they lived, or what Archibald Taylor's occupation was.

[ColC]

TAYLOR
ARCHIBALD
CATHERINE SINCLAIR
26/02/1825
Ardrossan

Children born/baptised Ardrossan.
ARCHIBALD 14/03/1827, ELIZABETH 8/03/1829, ANNABELLA 22/05/1831,
DUNCAN 18/10/1835. Plus two others on 1841 census


No death record Ardrossan pre 1855.

The 1841 census on freereg is very informative but you will need to see the original records on Scotland's People as mentioned. The site if free to search and a small fee to see records.

https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1422b5f4040b9d6e0cac46/duncan-taylor-1841-ayrshire-stevenston-1837-?locale=en

Colin

[eilthireach]

The page in the parish register records entries made in the year 1825. The entry records only the date on which the couple's intention to marry was recorded. "Archibald Taylor and Catherine Sinclair, both in this parish gave in their names for proclamation of banns 26th of Feby" It does not record the date(s) on which the banns were proclaimed (banns were supposed to be proclaimed on three separate occasions) and does not record the date of the marriage. The marriage usually followed shortly after the banns were proclaimed.

[Karytay]

Ok, thanks then I will not bother about it. Just have to except that all I am going to find.

[ColC]

This looks like Archibald’s death on SP, he may have been at sea in 1851. No trace of a death for Catherine, I guess she died before 1855.

ARCHIBALD TAYLOR 63 mmn CAMPBELL
Death 1857 Ardrossan

This may include the name of his parents.

Colin

[Karytay]

Hi Colin. Yes I have Archibald's death record. And have his parents. Its his wife that has been a problem. Catherine must of died some where after the last child in 1838 and before 1857. Since Archibald was a widower and his sister-in-law was present at his death. She lived with Archibald and the children.
I also have tried to find Catherine's death info with out success.
So I thought I will try and find Catherine's sister, Margaret Sinclair. According to the 1881 English census birth date is 1808 Scotland. No place name. She went to say with her Grand niece after Archibald died. She stayed with Susan at Limehouse, London, England. She died in 1900 at the age of 91 in West Ham, Essex. All I have is the transcript not the actual record. If I can find that maybe it will have her and Catherine's parents names on it.  Also Margaret never married.

[ColC]

Sadly no mothers maiden name on Margaret's death in West Ham. There seems to be a wide variation on he DOB, 1812 - 1816 in 1841, 1808 at death, which given the circumstances may also be incorrect. The 1841 Scottish census seems to be the only record in Scotland, have you found her in Scotland on later returns?

It would be helpful if you could post the dob/parents/place of birth for Archibald.

Colin

[Forfarian]

I thought I will try and find Catherine's sister, Margaret Sinclair. According to the 1881 English census birth date is 1808 Scotland.

The original 1881 census does not state a year of birth (the UK census never gives this information). It says that she was 73 years old. As the census was taken on 3 April 1881, and assuming that her age is accurate, she would have been born between 4 April 1807 and 3 April 1808.

I wish these web sites that provide census transcripts would stick to transcribing what the census actually says, and not (mis)calculate the year of birth by subtracting the person's age from the year of the census, which gives a wrong answer three times out of four.

In 1891, the census says that she was 78, which, if accurate, suggests that she was born in 1812 or 1813. As these dates do not overlap with the ones deduced from the 1881 census, at least one of them has to be wrong.

She died in 1900 at the age of 91 in West Ham, Essex.

Again, if accurate, that implies that she was born in 1808 or 1809. That does at least overlap with her age as given in 1881, but not with her age as given in 1891.

All I have is the transcript not the actual record. If I can find that maybe it will have her and Catherine's parents names on it. 

Sorry to disappoint you, but as Margaret died in England, her death certificate will not tell you the names of her parents. English (and Welsh, and Irish) death certificates do not record the names of the parents of the deceased.

You can order any English or Welsh death certificate from https://www.gro.gov.uk so finding the actual record is not a difficult task.