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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #18 on: Friday 18 October 24 11:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you again.

It didn't look like the Broady's/Broadie's/Broad's had much luck with their wives longevity!!!
Rostherne is the next village up from where I live in Knutsford, so I could easily pop over there.

Can I ask how certain you are that he could've been born in Rostherne?
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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #19 on: Friday 18 October 24 14:28 BST (UK) »

Can I ask how certain you are that he could've been born in Rostherne?

Not specially certain.
As I said, I had that baptism marked as a possibility - due to date, parents’ names, and because Rostherne is not too far from the Winwick area.
I also said, I had not looked extensively for Joseph’s baptism.
Now that you are back before census records, things become less certain, and more difficult to prove, unless you find a Will that gives names and relationships.
You also have the challenge of the variations in the spelling of the surname Broad / Brodey, etc.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #20 on: Friday 18 October 24 14:33 BST (UK) »
It didn't look like the Broady's/Broadie's/Broad's had much luck with their wives longevity!!!

There was a time when giving birth to a child, was a very dangerous activity for a woman.
Thankfully modern medicine has changed that.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #21 on: Friday 18 October 24 14:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you...
It is pretty difficult going back farther than 1841 and I suppose they would need to have something worth leaving behind in a will...
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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #22 on: Friday 18 October 24 14:39 BST (UK) »
It didn't look like the Broady's/Broadie's/Broad's had much luck with their wives longevity!!!

There was a time when giving birth to a child, was a very dangerous activity for a woman.
Thankfully modern medicine has changed that.

Absolutely.
Having witnessed three of my children being born, I can understand how difficult it was for the women back then... Although it still is now, it's just we have better technology, techniques and medicine than we did then, to help with any difficulties.
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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #23 on: Monday 21 October 24 01:43 BST (UK) »
Hello again Richard. Not sure if you have been looking for more on your Joseph Broady.
I have been looking around at records over the last few days and could not find anything more likely than what I will post below. Of course this does not mean that it is all correct - there maybe records missing, however it’s something you may wish to explore further.
There do seem to be many Broadey families in the Rostherne / Knutsford to Sandbach area, during the 1600s-1700s, which is an easy distance to Winwick and Aston-in-Makerfield.

I think your Joseph, could be the son of this Thomas. The Christian names in Joseph’s family follow fairly closely to this family.

Thomas BRODEY (Famer of Rostherne Mere)
baptised 25 Nov 1715,  son of John and Margaret; died 3 Jan 1780
Married in Rostherne 18 July 1731 to Hannah CARTWRIGHT (d. 1734)

Child of Thomas and Hannah
Baptisms In Rostherne and also at Lancashire Non-Conformist Church
•   Joseph baptised Nov 1733
Hannah died 26 Feb 1734

Thomas BROADEY (Husbandman of Mere) married 15 Feb 1735 widow Sarah WHITEHEAD (of Millington),                 [Sarah COTTERELL of Dunham had married James Whitehead of Rostherne in Warrington July 1729.]

Children of Thomas and Sarah
•   Sarah 1736
•   Thomas bapt 1737
•   Betty bapt 1741
•   Betty 1744
•   William 1747

Burial for Thomas
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/233400346/thomas-broadey
Wife Sarah died 1784, age 75
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #24 on: Monday 21 October 24 01:47 BST (UK) »
Then in turn I think Thomas, the father of the above family might be the son of John and Margaret as below:-

John BRODY (of Rhostern) married 24 Dec 1698 Middlewich to Margaret BURTON
John died 8 Mar 1724, and Margaret died 15 Nov 1724

Children of John and Margaret bapt in Rostherne
•   John 1700 – married 27 Dec 1735 to Mary BLEASE  - had a son Joseph born 28 Mar 1736 who died 1815 Rostherne
•   Hugh 1702-1786 – 1st married 1723 Macclesfield to Elisabeth GATLEY (d. 1752), and 2nd married 1761 to widow Mary Simpson. - Had a son Joseph born 1732.
•   Thomas 1710 - 1712
•   Thomas 1715 – 1780 - 1st married Hannah CARTWRIGHT 1731, and 2nd married Sarah WHITEHEAD in 1735
•   Margaret 1715 (bapt same day as Thomas)


The above John Broady (father of the family)
Could be bapt 4 Jun 1663 Rostherne, the son of Joseph BROADEY


Family search has lots of images of the original records which are worth viewing for the additional information they contain. That might help with working out the various families.

Also, might be useful exploring the information and links on this site
https://parishmouse.co.uk/cheshire/rostherne-cheshire-family-history-guide/

As you live in the area, it might be useful to see what records the Cheshire Archives hold.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #25 on: Monday 21 October 24 09:07 BST (UK) »
2nd marriage: Wigan All Saints 10 Oct 1758
Joseph Broady of Ashton (X)  to  Mary Pennington of Hindley (X)

Lancs OPC
Baptism, 10 Sep 1758, All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire
Ann Pennington
Daughter of Mary Pennington
Abode Hindley
Baptised by Thos. Lever, Curate
Notes: Bastard Child

LANCAT
Lancashire Quarter Sessions
Wigan, Michaelmas 1758
Date: 9 Oct 1758
Hindley. Order for maintenance of Ann, bastard child of Joseph Broad of Ashton, husbandman, and Mary Pennington, singlewoman

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #26 on: Monday 21 October 24 19:16 BST (UK) »
2nd marriage: Wigan All Saints 10 Oct 1758
Joseph Broady of Ashton (X)  to  Mary Pennington of Hindley (X)

Lancs OPC
Baptism, 10 Sep 1758, All Saints, Hindley, Lancashire
Ann Pennington
Daughter of Mary Pennington
Abode Hindley
Baptised by Thos. Lever, Curate
Notes: Bastard Child

LANCAT
Lancashire Quarter Sessions
Wigan, Michaelmas 1758
Date: 9 Oct 1758
Hindley. Order for maintenance of Ann, bastard child of Joseph Broad of Ashton, husbandman, and Mary Pennington, singlewoman

Thanks Jonwarm

It looks like he married her instead of having to pay maintenance!!!?

Thanks once again Neale1961 I've been away for the weekend so have only just seen this, thank you.
I'm just speculating now, but I wonder if he moved from Rostherne because he was running away from women, after reading what Jonwarm has just posted
I will definitely pay a visit to the graveyard in Rostherne

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