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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 October 24 15:09 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Luke moved to Almondbury in Yorkshire, because of his parents dying whilst he was still very young?? (That's where he was married to Mary Booth in 1815).
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 October 24 17:24 BST (UK) »
I wondered the same thing. Who took over his care at age 6? An older sibling, an aunt or uncle, a grandparent?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 October 24 18:41 BST (UK) »
I'd like to think it was family who took care of him and not a workhouse
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 October 24 20:24 BST (UK) »
Of the records I've got, Luke's first child was called Hannah, so maybe his older sister Hannah, born in 1782, (who married Peter Lunn in 1814 in Wigan) took care of him?... It's a nice thought, but tough on the young girl who would've only been 16 when she was orphaned
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.


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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 October 24 22:22 BST (UK) »
If he had been taken in by the workhouse, he would have been required to stay within "his" parish. Of course this does not stop him from moving to Yorkshire later on.

Indeed, Hannah might have been an "important" sibling for him.

Are there witnesses to his marriage - and do they have any family connection?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 October 24 23:00 BST (UK) »
Have just been looking further. I can see now that your Joseph Broad actually had THREE marriages

1st Marriage: 30 Dec 1755 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire
Joseph Broadey - (X), of this Parish
Ellen Baxter - (X), of this Parish
      No children from this marriage.

Burial - 12 Feb 1757 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire
Ellen Brodey - wife of Joseph Brodey (age 20)       Abode: Golborn
       I wonder if she died in childbirth - her 1st child?

[That's the first time there's been an address included. Very useful!
            https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Golborne]
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2nd marriage: Wigan All Saints 10 Oct 1758
Joseph Broady of Ashton (X)  to  Mary Pennington of Hindley (X)

Burial -  23 May 1780 - Mary Broad, wife of Joseph
 ___________

3rd marriage: 19 Jul 1781 St Oswald, Winwick
Joseph Broade - (X), of this Parish   
Ellen Heaton - (X), of this Parish

Burial -  20 Nov 1791  - Joseph Broad

Burial -  4 Dec 1796 – Ellen Broad

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 October 24 08:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks again.

witness's to Luke's wedding were I think a Thomas Turner and James Eastwood.

So Ellen Baxter died young in Golborne. I suppose there's every chance of her dying in childbirth and I have another location to look for Joseph's birth

McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 October 24 09:57 BST (UK) »
I didn’t find a convincing baptism for Joseph in the general vicinity. But I have not looked extensively. He may have come from a little further afield. I would expect he was born in the late 1720s to early 1730s so that he was 21 or older when he married in 1755.


There was one that I made a note of as a possible
Joseph Brodey
 Baptism 4 Nov 1733
Rostherne, Cheshire
Parents - Thomas and Hannah
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield
« Reply #17 on: Friday 18 October 24 10:30 BST (UK) »
Re the above Baptism, the parents were
Thomas Brodey and Hannah Cartwright
Married July 1731 in Rostherne

Hannah died in Feb 1734.

There are quite a few Brodey families in Rostherne at this time.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)