Clara Barker & Thomas Grogan of Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire

[CGPennington54]

Clara Barker(b. A-J 1883) married Thomas Grogan(b. About 1881) on 28 Sep 1901 at St. Peter’s, Birstall. The last certain record I have of either was the 1911 Census where Clara and her only surviving son Harold Grogan was living at 54 Westgate in Cleckheaton with her widowed father, John William Barker. Thomas Grogan was absent from the Census.

However, a Thomas Grogan born in Ireland in 1881 was an inmate at Armley Jail in Leeds, about 9 miles from Cleckheaton, and he was described as being married and a general labourer. Could this be him?

On their marriage record Thomas was described as a miner, the son of Elijah. I’ve not found any UK Census records for Elijah and Thomas (apart from the possible 1911 Armley one). When his son Harold married in 1924 Thomas was named as NOT deceased and as a miner. This occupation casts some doubt that the Thomas Grogan in Armley Jail was the correct person.

After 1911 they’ve just disappeared. Son Harold remained local to Cleck/Dewsbury.

Can anyone shed any light on what became of Clara and Thomas?

[Ermintrude46]

There's a death for a Thomas Grogan born about 1881 registered in Leeds in October 1922.  The fact that he wasn't shown as deceased on the marriage certificate when Harold married in 1924 can't be taken to mean he was definitely alive then.  Sometimes the father might be noted as deceased and sometimes not, there was no requirement to state which was the case.
Ermy

[Ermintrude46]

Clara Barker is in the 1901 census for Cleckheaton with her parents John William and Mary and siblings George and Edith.  There is also a boarder, Thomas Wiggins a coal miner aged 18 born Leeds.  Interestingly, there is a baptism for a Thomas Wiggins aged 5 in 1886 in Leeds.  His father is shown as Elijah Wiggins and mother is Margaret (they were married in 1882 and Margaret's maiden name was Grogan). There is an earlier baptism for a Thomas Grogan, mother Margaret, no father given at St Marks, Woodhouse, Leeds also in 1882.  I surmise therefore that the lodger with the Barker family in the 1901 census is Thomas Grogan whose father was actually Elijah Wiggins.
Ermy

[Ladyhawk]

Ermy that looks interesting I had just looked at the 1901 census and wondered about Thomas Wiggins

Thomas Wiggins age 21 occupation miner
Birth Place   Leeds
Event Date   8 Dec 1902
Prison or Quarter Session   HMP Wakefield
Location   Wakefield, West Yorkshire

[Ermintrude46]

There's a Thomas Wiggins, nephew, staying with/visiting Thomas and Triphena (nee Wiggins) Tate in Leeds in the 1891 census, this could potentially be him
Ermy

[Ladyhawk]

Could this be him on 1891 census

Piece   3687
Folio   10
Page 15
10, High Markland Street, Leeds
Thomas Tate 43   Head
Triphena Tate 43   Wife
Thomas Wiggins    9 Leeds Nephew
Sarah E Lightowler 4 Niece

Possible marriage

Dec 1871   
TATE Thomas     Leeds    9b   590    
Female name on same page
WIGGINS    Tryphena        Leeds    9b   590

Snap Ermy posting whilst red writing

[Ladyhawk]

1861 census RG9/3390/65 p16
9, Pickard Street, Leeds, Yorkshire

Thomas Wiggins Head 42 Rope maker b Bridport, Dorset
Miram Wiggins Wife 37   b Thorne, Yorkshire
Triphena Wiggins   Daughter 14 -   Sheffield, Yorkshire
Tom Wiggins Son   -8 b   Sheffield, Yorkshire
Susan Wiggins Daughter 7 b Sheffield, Yorkshire
Eligha Wiggins son 1-   Sheffield, Yorkshire

1871 RG10/4562/85 p27
Pickard Street, Leeds, Yorkshire
Thomas Wiggins Head 52 Rope maker b London, Bedfordshire
Miriam Wiggins Wife 45 b Thurne, Yorkshire
Tripena Wiggins Daughter 23 b Sheffield, Yorkshire
Tom   Wiggins Son 18 Cloth mills b Sheffield, Yorkshire
Elijah   Wiggins Son 10 Scholar b Sheffield

[Ladyhawk]

Could this be a possibility death of Thomas Wiggins  (Grogan) 

Thomas Wiggins Age   55
Registration Quarter   Apr-May-Jun 1937
Registration district   Leeds North Yorkshire West Riding
Volume   9b Page   361

Burial
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/227616608/thomas-wiggins

[CGPennington54]

Thanks all for the suggestions that Thomas Grogan and Thomas Wiggins could be one and the same. It will be interesting to research. Other suggestions still welcome!