JOHN CHARLES and MARGARET CADENHEAD

[David Nicoll]

Dianna,
     Hi, yes it is complicated, do you have them or their family turning up in later census documents. If you are lucky you might get some visitors.
     Yes, if you don’t already know the three words, of, in, at tell you a lot.

     Of - usually the owner
    In - tenant
    At - worker

    So the Milne’s should be the tenants..

    Yes I have a few who only appear in Mort cloth records at their death. It depends on the record keeping. It’s worth researching what the quality of the parish records are, where there are gaps etc. the are a few who I have found who have fallen in those gaps.
    Also as you say the session records, they can be quite informative.
   

[haney]

Hi here is the record I have been looking for.  Maybe this John Mill was the Owner, not sure.  Thanks Dianna

[Forfarian]

That is a transcript from the Horse Tax rolls which are searchable online at www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk
See https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/historical-tax-rolls/horse-tax-rolls-1785-1798/horse-tax-volume-29/163

[David Nicoll]

Thanks Forfarian,
that gives a nice coverage of the use of, at, in and other with theDoctor being of Balmakewan, and John Mill being at Mill of Garvock in 1797.

Interesting difference with the 1790 baptism, had he lost the tenancy, or is it just a descriptive difference.

[Forfarian]

that gives a nice coverage of the use of, at, in and other

I did rather wonder about that, because most of the names listed were 'at' and I'd have expected more of the horse owners to be 'in' rather than 'at'.

[haney]

HI David and Forfarian
    Thanks both for your replies.  It's interesting to find where our ancestors lived at least even though we cannot find too many details of them.

    I imagine that my Charles family could have very well moved from the area of Garvock as James b 1789 went to Farnell, may have been better work opportunites I guess.

 He, James seems to have been employed in Woodend Farnell from 1812 to nearly his death age 90 (as a pauper) in 1879, as an Ag Labourer/Forrester's labourer. 

  I'm still hoping to track down some books on the Forfar/Angus area to get a better feel of their home.  Obviously changed over the years though.  Many thanks and kind regards Dianna

   Seems to have been employed by the Carnegie family who had Kinnaird Castle/Estate. 

    It's wonderful finding information about where they lived in Farnell it's seems so beautiful there.

[David Nicoll]

Dianna,

   Hi, have you looked at the Statistical Accounts for Scotland. The give a fascinating picture of each parish, written by the local minister.

There are a few more interesting books that are now freely available online that cover the parishes and counties.

[haney]

Hi again
   I hope this is okay to ask a bit of help with a translation please.  I have attached the document and included what I think it say's.

My James and wife Helen Lows first child Jean was born/baptised 19 July 1812 and James and Helen were married in Laurencekirk in 17th May 1812.

I did not find any Kirk sessions for them in Laurencekirk where they were married.  I thought that would have been where they got into trouble with the church if Helen was obviously expecting, LOL unless I've missed something.  Regards Dianna

CHURCH FARNELL 19TH OF JULY 1812
 
THE SESSION BEING MET AND CONST???TED BY PRAYER SE??? THE REVEREND MR WILSON MODERATOR ROBERT WEBSTER ELDER AND ANDREW KINNEAR SESSION CLERK – COMPEARED JAMES CHARLES A MARRIED MAN AND CONFESSED HIMSELF GUILTY OF ANTINUPTIAL FORNICATION WITH HELEN LOW HIS WIFE AND HAVING MADE HIS APPEARANCES AND SATISFIED THE DISCIPLINE OF THE CHURCH HE WAS ABSOLVED FROM THE SCANDAL AND DISMISSED
 
S??T CLOSED WITH PRAYERS
 
It looks like the last word in the first line could be the same as the first word in the last line.

[haney]

Hi David
    I have heard of the Statistical Accounts thanks will look into it especially if they are written by the local minister, that could prove interesting.

Can't wait until I update my computer and then I can really have a good look for everything.  Thanks