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Re: JOHN CHARLES and MARGARET CADENHEAD
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 29 October 24 22:09 GMT (UK) »
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Re: JOHN CHARLES and MARGARET CADENHEAD
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 29 October 24 22:25 GMT (UK) »
HI Forfarian
     Thanks so much for that.  I now have a complete document for my records.  Kindest regards Dianna

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Re: JOHN CHARLES and MARGARET CADENHEAD
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 09 April 25 01:04 BST (UK) »
Hi all!  I would just like to add an update to my intial enquiry on the above couple after going through the GARVOCK Kirk/Accounts

I hope I have this correct though. I seem to have come across a PALL??? is it?? record for a JOHN CHARLES in Garvock 13 March 1791.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/virtual-volumes/volume-images/volume_data-CH2-655-3/GAZ00559?image_number=140

THEN much to my surprise 4 records come up after this for a MARGARET CADANHEAD!!

From Garvock Kirk sessions accounts 1769-1814.

30 July 1792 to Margt. CADANHEAD on behoof?? of her family 8 shillings (is it?0
21 July 1793 to Margaret CADENHEAD on behoof of her children 10 shillings
3 August 1794 to Margaret CADENHEAD 4 shillings
31 August 1794 to Margaret CADENHEAD 5 shillings.

Margaret may have remarried as there are no more records for her on the Kirk sessions receiving money

I believe it was practice for a women to not only retain her maiden name BUT to revert to it when she became a widow.

I was so happy to find this record.  Even though my eyes are falling OUT.

I found one very early record also back in the 1730's for a JOHN CHARLES being the Session Clerk!!  Don't know if it all connects though.  Time may tell.  Regards Dianna

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Re: JOHN CHARLES and MARGARET CADENHEAD
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 09 April 25 08:46 BST (UK) »
I seem to have come across a PALL??? is it?? record for a JOHN CHARLES in Garvock 13 March 1791.
Yes - though it's more usual to find it called a mortcloth. It is the cloth that is draped over the coffin during the burial service. The fees for hire of it went into parish funds for the poor.

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THEN much to my surprise 4 records come up after this for a MARGARET CADANHEAD!!
From Garvock Kirk sessions accounts 1769-1814.
A widow was often given support from parish funds if she had no means of earning or support, especially if she had dependent children.

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8 shillings (is it?0
Yes. Eight shillings is £0.40. Converting for inflation, it was worth about £50 in today's terms.

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Margaret may have remarried as there are no more records for her on the Kirk sessions receiving money
Or she might have died, or the children may have grown up, got employment, and supported their mother and younger siblings if any.

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I believe it was practice for a women to not only retain her maiden name BUT to revert to it when she became a widow.
Yes.
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Re: JOHN CHARLES and MARGARET CADENHEAD
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 09 April 25 09:00 BST (UK) »
Hi another little piece in the zigsaw puzzle.  At least I know what happened now to my John Charles. 

I searched up to 1814 for a mention of Margaret (re death/cloth) but maybe she lived a long happy life I hope.

She may have ended up with one of the children!!!

I'd never heard of a Pall, you learn something everyday.

8 shillings doesn't sound much but I guess she made do with it.  Lucky to receive it at all I guess.

Many thanks hopefully may find more!!  Regards Dianna