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Ancestry 2024 results changing
« on: Sunday 10 November 24 22:02 GMT (UK) »
I look forward to receiving DNA updates - it’s amusing to see the changes.   ;D

However, my brother’s 2024 results continue to change. Initial 2024 results include:
45% Scotland - specifically Scottish Highlands and Northern Isles

A couple of weeks after the initial results:
45% Scotland - Scottish Highlands (Northern Isles disappeared)

Now:
45% Scotland - Scottish Highlands and Central Lowlands

Has anyone noticed a bit of tweaking with 2024 results?  Thank you, Lisa

Added:  I just checked my results.  The Scotland percentage has gone up slightly and I now have subregions (Scottish Highlands and Central Lowlands) as well. Glad they were added, I was feeling left out.  ;D


As pointed out by RootsChatters, my Irish ancestors most likely meandered around Ireland and Scotland as I’ve yet to find any living or born in Scotland.  But, I was surprised to see the Northern Isles result.  As mentioned in previously threads, my Stuart(s) and Hamilton(s) were in Sligo, Ireland by 1815. I wonder if the surnames might have been more popular in one or two areas in Scotland, such as the Central Lowlands - it’s something for me to research.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 November 24 22:08 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 November 24 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

Thank you for pointing out the thread.  I actually did read some (most?) of it when it was first posted.  I will reread it in case it does answer my question.  Thank you again.   :)
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 November 24 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Check, in particular, melba's contributions.

This release is very strange - even for those of us who are very sceptical.

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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 November 24 23:12 GMT (UK) »
In the thread quoted I wrote:-

Mine now reflects more closely to the origins of my distant predecessors.

The same for two other DNA kits that I manage.

My Wife’s though is still a bit off actuals.
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Well mine has changed again and now match my actuals even more closely.

My Wife is annoyed, she is now no longer a warrior Viking Shield Maiden !

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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 November 24 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Sheffield was obviously much further south at one point in time and broadly spanning the Thames if Ancestry are to be believed. I'm still trying to fathom how I'm over twice as Irish as my sister through our paternal side though. Ethnicity smethnicity.

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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 November 24 02:06 GMT (UK) »
Gadget, thank you for pointing out Melba’s contributions.  I did read them more closely this time and continue to get a better understanding of DNA.

Biggles50, our tests (mine, my brother, and our mother) also somewhat line up with the research we’ve done for our family tree(s). 

…My Wife is annoyed, she is now no longer a warrior Viking Shield Maiden !

 ;D ;D

 
…I'm still trying to fathom how I'm over twice as Irish as my sister through our paternal side though. Ethnicity smethnicity.

Glen, just give it time.  I’m slowly catching up to my brother’s Scotland percentage.  At this rate, I’ll pass his percentage in a couple of years.  He doesn’t deserve it as much as me; I’m the one who enjoys bagpipe music  :-X and took several years of highland dance lessons.  ;)  As mentioned in another thread, coincidentally, my first kilt was a Stewart tartan.  (At the time, we didn’t know we had Stuart/Stewart ancestors.)

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Just to make sure I’ve been clear, I’m surprised that our results for 2024 have changed at least twice since the September results were published.  But, thank you all for your help and wit.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 November 24 11:42 GMT (UK) »
I suspect there has been a glitch in the allocation of the sub regions, which Ancestry are trying to fix in the background.

My own sub regions initially came out as the North Highlands, Northern Islands and the Isle of Man (I think). The Isle of Man and Northern Islands had gone by the next morning. Today, I notice that I am back to a subregion of Scottish Highlands and Central Lowlands, which given that my family are pretty much universally from Ayrshire, Argyll, West Lothian, Stirlingshire and Lanarkshire seems a reasonable fit.

I will freely admit to being one of those who regarded "ethnicity" as little more than an amusing conversation piece, and I would still argue that DNA companies offering to find "Neanderthal" or "Viking" DNA are bordering on fraudulent, but upon reading the explanations provided by Ancestry I am confident that whilst far from perfect, the results do predict pretty accurately what the science part says they do.

In fairness, it must be said, Ancestry are hardly guiltless here, since the problem is most people think the ethnicities (or Ancestral Regions as they are now) represent something entirely different than they actually do because of the marketing campaigns. Ultimately, Ancestry, just like it's competitors, is a business, so of course they do things in part to sell kits and or subscriptions, but sometimes that gets in the way of what many of us think should be their primary concern which is the genealogy. I for one could do without the traits in their entirety, but I recognise why Ancestry are devoting time and effort to adding them.

Returning to the Ancestral Regions, what I would say is this. In researching our trees, we all know the perils of copying other people's research and accepting it as accurate without going to the source material. We all share a rather scathing view of those who seem more interested in "filling" their tree than checking for accuracy. I suggest that in understanding the validity of DNA results the same approach applies. Go to the source or simply copy each other's scepticism.

Ancestry provides lengthy and detailed descriptions of how they assemble their results and what they actually mean. If after reading the source material you still think it is all just smoke and mirrors, fine. After all, we all know some statutory registers are a little economical with the truth, so not all source material is accurate.

Or don't bother. Just the next time you sneer at someone's unsourced tree, take a moment to think - am I really any different?
Howie (Riccarton Ayrshire)
McNeil/ McNeill (Argyll)
Main (Airdrie Lanarkshire)
Grant (Lanarkshire and Bo'ness)
More (Lanarkshire)
Ure (Polmont)
Colligan (Lanarkshire)
Drinnan (New Zealand)

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Re: Ancestry 2024 results changing
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 November 24 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Albufera32, I don’t know how I missed seeing your reply; I just stumbled upon it tonight. Thank you very much for your well-written, thorough reply.  (Sadly, my comments never have the same quality.)

I’m pleased to read that your subregions also changed.  I suppose I’m overly-interested in the Scottish region in hope of possibly eventually learning more about ancestors who roamed that area (since other, more reliable sources have not been fruitful).

My own tree (on Anc*try) is rather limited in size as I’ve had difficulties tracking some of my direct ancestors — why bother with siblings when I can’t even find direct ancestors.  However, this year, after reading others’ comments, I changed my mind and started researching and then adding siblings.  Perhaps I may stumble upon wills and other documents to aid my search.

Thank you again for adding your thoughts and comments.  Lisa
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)