Henry John Francis Frederick FOSS

[MattB]

Hi All,

Looking for any help on locating Henry Francis Frederick John Foss c 1846-1912, who was born in Germany.

His father was Frederick Foss c 1826 - 1909 (?).

Henry doesn’t appear in the censuses until 1881, although his children appear to be born here from 1873 in the East End.

Ideally trying to find out when Frederick arrived (was he first or did he follow his son), and where in Germany they may have been from. DNA test hasn’t been much help.

Henry also appears to have been a lighterman but in the enclosed docks only at the old King George dock. The Albert  dock & Victoria dock. They could only take the lighters from the ships to the lock & vice versa.

Grateful for any help!

Matt

[rosie99]

Did he marry Elizabeth Gerken on 29 Apr 1872 in Bethnal Green

ADDED Image on Ancestry gives his father as Frederick Foss occupation Postman

[Dundee]

His father was Frederick Foss c 1826 - 1909 (?).

Ideally trying to find out when Frederick arrived (was he first or did he follow his son), and where in Germany they may have been from. DNA test hasn’t been much help.

Why do you think the father was living in England?

Debra 

[MattB]

Did he marry Elizabeth Gerken on 29 Apr 1872 in Bethnal Green

ADDED Image on Ancestry gives his father as Frederick Foss occupation Postman

Yes, he married Elizabeth Gerken, and dna confirms that.

[MattB]

His father was Frederick Foss c 1826 - 1909 (?).

Ideally trying to find out when Frederick arrived (was he first or did he follow his son), and where in Germany they may have been from. DNA test hasn’t been much help.

Why do you think the father was living in England?

Debra 

Hi, it’s a family belief, but I haven’t yet found evidence to confirm.

[rosie99]

His father was Frederick Foss c 1826 - 1909 (?).

Do you have a 1909 death that you think may be him 

[MattB]

No - lots of people have accepted this in their family trees but to me it looks like a baby who was born and died in September 1909.

[amondg]

GRO Index
Frederick Foss  death reg West Ham 1909 age 0

[amondg]

Not concerning Frederick

Do you have all the children of Henry and Elizabeth?
Henry John F 1872 reg. Poplar mother's maiden name Gerken
Frank Henry 1874 reg. Poplar mmn Gerkin -died 19 March 1902 age 27 married Louisa Newman 1897
Esther Hannah 1877 reg. Polar   mmn Gerken  died 1877
William Charles  1878 reg. Poplar mmn Gerken died 1878
Hannah Elizabeth1880 reg. Poplar  mmn Gerken  died 1881
Walter Charles 1882 reg. St George in the East (born 10 August 1882 bap 25 February 1883 St George in the East married Mary Jane Bennett 1900 (his son Frederick died 1909)
Arthur Alfred 1884 reg. Poplar
George Herbert 1887 reg. Poplar  died 1887
Thomas 1888 reg. Poplar  mmn Gerkin died 1888
Edith Sarah 1889 reg. West Ham
Alfred 1892 reg. West Ham  mmn Gerken  died 1892
Andrew John 1893 reg. West Ham (born 2 August1893 bap 8 September 1893 St Luke Victoria Docks)  died 1894
John Alick Henry 1895 reg. West Ham  (born 10 December 1894 bap 31 December 1894 St Luke Victoria Docks)

1911 census Elizabeth states married 38 years 13 children 5 living 8 deceased.