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John Barrett
« on: Sunday 22 December 24 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Hoping someone can piece together in finding the parents of John Barrett
1829 barnsley Yorkshire. Death 1904 Barnsley South Yorkshire. He married Martha Scott. Thankyou

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 December 24 11:15 GMT (UK) »
His marriage record should give his father's name
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 December 24 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Agree with LizzieL.
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 December 24 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Oh no!
Image of marriage record on Ancestry, blanks for fathers of both bride and groom.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 December 24 11:35 GMT (UK) »
That may mean he was illegitimate, but not always, I have found marriages where fathers not recorded, but the couple were both legitimate or one was illegitimate and the other possibly didn't want to have their father recorded but not their spouse's.
Martha was a minor at marriage. Witnesses were Benjamin Senior (groom on the next marriage record) and Thomas Stayton (also witnesses other marriages so possibly parish official).
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 December 24 11:40 GMT (UK) »
1851 census has them in Worsbrough - HO107/2333 284 page 10

John is said to be aged 21, born Barnsley and Martha is 17 also born in Barnsley
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 December 24 11:42 GMT (UK) »
If I have the right family in 1861 (with Sarah Gill widow - mother in Law). He says he was born in Kingston Place

https://forebears.io/england/yorkshire/barnsley/kingston-place

So that narrows it down
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 December 24 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou Lizzie

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Re: John Barrett
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 December 24 12:03 GMT (UK) »
YOU are spot on its come together lovely with other information i have thank you
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