Help finding civil marriage records

[jamesm113]

The church, St Mary's, at the link above is in Staghall.

I think I am more confused new.  Looking at Griffith's Valuation on RootsIreland.ie, there are Donohues in Feugh (Bishops), and none in Feugh Maxwell.  And Patrick's birth record says Feugh Bishop as well: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634853#page/87/mode/1up

If they actually lived in Feugh Bishops, they would have gone right by St Patrick's in Milltown, and go another 4.4km to St Mary's in Staghall.

Info on the town land of Drumlane
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/loughtee-lower/drumlane/milltown/drumlane/

ETA Which the children are you missing Irish Genealogy links for?

I've only had significant luck with 1 of the 8 children.  No 1901 census, marriage records, or obvious death records I could find.

John Maguire - have a 1869 birth records, and just a NY marriage record in 1896 and child in NY in 1898
Patt Maguire - 1870 birth record, but haven't found anything else
Mary Anne Maguire - 1873 birth record, possible (but I think unlikely) death record, but I think it's another townland, really illegible, so I haven't 100% ruled it out
Ellen Maguire - 1874 birth record, but haven't found anything else
Thomas Maguire - 1876 birth record, but haven't found anything else
Catherine Maguire - 1880 record, but birth haven't found anything else

[Wexflyer]

If they actually lived in Feugh Bishops, they would have gone right by St Patrick's in Milltown, and go another 4.4km to St Mary's in Staghall.

There can be more than one church in a parish. While the records will be for all, the records will take the name of the parish church. Is that what is happening here?

[jamesm113]

If they actually lived in Feugh Bishops, they would have gone right by St Patrick's in Milltown, and go another 4.4km to St Mary's in Staghall.

There can be more than one church in a parish. While the records will be for all, the records will take the name of the parish church. Is that what is happening here?

I think this might be an exception to the rule here. 

I have not been able to find any other church records for the Maguire side of the family, except on the RootsIreland.ie index. The RootsIreland.ie index had links to the NLI parish registers, but I could never find an actual entry on them.

I asked RootsIreland about it and they said NLI only has the St Mary's Church for the Staghall area, but not the St Patrick's Church in Milltown.  I think they since removed the NLI links for St Patrick's church records, but I no longer have an active subscription there to confirm.

[Wexflyer]

I think this might be an exception to the rule here. 

I don't think so.
According to the online guide for the parish of Drumlane, Co. Cavan, there are two churches within the parish, in Milltown and Staghall.
https://www.drumlane.ie/visitor-information/

[Wexflyer]

At this point I have lost track of what the issue is - the parish register information for the 1868 marriage is in some ways better than a civil registration, as it has the names of both parents for both the bride and groom. Also has their addresses, the names of the witnesses, and the date of the marriage.

So there is little need for a civil registration version, which apparently doesn't exist. That being so, is there a remaining issue?

[jamesm113]

Well, I was hoping to find one, at least for collaborating evidence of the marriage.

If it was just that one particular civil marriage record is missing, so be it.

However, I haven't found much other information for the rest of that family, which makes me think I am doing something wrong when searching.

[Wexflyer]

I really don't think that the 1868 parish record needs corroboration.

In addition, I see baptisms for at least 6 of their children in Drumlane. Have you not found those?

[jamesm113]

Yes I did find those, but not much else afterward, except for James.

John Maguire - have a 1869 birth records, and just a NY marriage record in 1896 and child in NY in 1898
Patt Maguire - 1870 birth record, but haven't found anything else
Mary Anne Maguire - 1873 birth record, possible (but I think unlikely) death record, but I think it's another townland, really illegible, so I haven't 100% ruled it out
Ellen Maguire - 1874 birth record, but haven't found anything else
Thomas Maguire - 1876 birth record, but haven't found anything else
Catherine Maguire - 1880 record, but birth haven't found anything else

I did find a civil death record for Terence (1877-1880).

I suppose it's possible there's just not any records to be found... But I have more doubts about my ability to find them.  Wouldn't it be odd for the daughters to not get married?

[Wexflyer]

There are so many possibilities. This situation may or may not be unusual.

What was William Maguires occupation? It makes a huge difference if he was a farmer versus laborer, versus something else. Specifically, it tells us whether the family was likely to have stayed in one place, or have moved around.

What did the children/adults die of? If TB, then that could wipe out entire families - I have seen many instances. One possible record for William says he did die of TB.

As one family member emigrated, it is easy to suppose that others did also, and simply disappear from Irish records.

Oh, and lots of women (and men too) never married.